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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @ajstringham not like we make a huge public announcement 🙂 When we first built the Toronto platform we were not doing PBX hosting. Eventually it didn't make sense to run our own PBX when we had a standard hosting platform for clients. So we moved into the same datacenter on the same platform as most of our PBX clients. Now we are identical to them just running on the most bleeding edge version of the product so that we see issues before anyone else (we hope.)

      Yeah, I heard you guys moved to FreePBX a couple months ago.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        Something else to mention - my carrier currently forwards all calls that would overflow the two lines back to my main office. Can SIP trunks do that?

        Sure, but even better is getting the ability to go over two lines. It's really easy to get unlimited lines with SIP, or at least many lines.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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          @ajstringham said:

          Yeah, I heard you guys moved to FreePBX a couple months ago.

          Yes we did, but the moves were separate. Elastix in Toronto to Elastix in Chicago to FreePBX in Chicago.

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          • NetworkNerdN
            NetworkNerd @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            @coliver said:

            Good point, just thought it would be something to be made aware of.

            Also, calculating calls on 100kb per call means you have at most 10 active calls * 100 kbps = 1 mbps with QoS on your router, there should not be any problems.

            Key in on the word "should" there. Sometimes Sonicwalls do not play nice with SIP. It depends on the model as to whether QoS is even available if I remember correctly.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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              @NetworkNerd it's always an issue that you might have a router without working QoS.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                @NetworkNerd said:

                Key in on the word "should" there. Sometimes Sonicwalls do not play nice with SIP. It depends on the model as to whether QoS is even available if I remember correctly.

                Missed the fact that it is a sonicwall. simply hate them because they cause so many problems with SIP. Prior to SIP use being so common, they were a great platform that I would recommend.

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                • NetworkNerdN
                  NetworkNerd @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @NetworkNerd said:

                  Key in on the word "should" there. Sometimes Sonicwalls do not play nice with SIP. It depends on the model as to whether QoS is even available if I remember correctly.

                  Missed the fact that it is a sonicwall. simply hate them because they cause so many problems with SIP. Prior to SIP use being so common, they were a great platform that I would recommend.

                  I remember having to turn on SIP inspection (or SIP transformations as they call it) on one Sonicwall in particular to avoid one-way audio. And I think there was a community post made by @DonutDetroyer about having to do that with a Fonality system as well.

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @ajstringham said:

                    Yeah, I heard you guys moved to FreePBX a couple months ago.

                    Yes we did, but the moves were separate. Elastix in Toronto to Elastix in Chicago to FreePBX in Chicago.

                    Which makes sense.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said:

                      Missed the fact that it is a sonicwall. simply hate them because they cause so many problems with SIP. Prior to SIP use being so common, they were a great platform that I would recommend.

                      One of my least favourite security devices. Too expensive and too low quality.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        Missed the fact that it is a sonicwall. simply hate them because they cause so many problems with SIP. Prior to SIP use being so common, they were a great platform that I would recommend.

                        One of my least favourite security devices. Too expensive and too low quality.

                        I picked up the SonicWalls nearly 3 years ago - I even had a thread about it on SW before deciding. It came down to SonicWall vs Barracuda. I went with SonicWall.

                        Everyone is talking about Ubiquiti devices now - Considering their price I can definitely try one (assuming it will create a VPN P2P with a SonicWall).

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                        • ?
                          A Former User
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                          i've got one here (i think you've got one too) but if you want we can setup a test VPN just to check it out.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @A Former User
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                            @Hubtech said:

                            i've got one here (i think you've got one too) but if you want we can setup a test VPN just to check it out.

                            LOL - You know that I personally purchased a Ubiquiti. Thanks though.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              How about hosting my own PBX in my datacenter?

                              All of the above still qualifies (100Kb/s) etc, do I need to have VPN's to all of my sites?

                              What if I want to use a hard phone at my home as part of the system, let's assume I don't have a VPNing firewall at home.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Something else to mention - my carrier currently forwards all calls that would overflow the two lines back to my main office. Can SIP trunks do that?

                                Sure, but even better is getting the ability to go over two lines. It's really easy to get unlimited lines with SIP, or at least many lines.

                                I only have two people at this location that can answer the phone - I want the rest of the calls to go to my main office so they can be handled immediately. Most calls don't need to be handled directly by the location in question.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  I only have two people at this location that can answer the phone - I want the rest of the calls to go to my main office so they can be handled immediately. Most calls don't need to be handled directly by the location in question.

                                  With VoIP you aren't dealing with "these lines to here and these lines to there" anymore. It's a pool of capacity and everyone can use it.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by Dashrender

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    I only have two people at this location that can answer the phone - I want the rest of the calls to go to my main office so they can be handled immediately. Most calls don't need to be handled directly by the location in question.

                                    With VoIP you aren't dealing with "these lines to here and these lines to there" anymore. It's a pool of capacity and everyone can use it.

                                    Sure, once the whole system is SIP - but it won't be, not for quite some time.

                                    My current phone vendor will only support certified SIP providers (AKA - ones that pay them 😉 )

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      I only have two people at this location that can answer the phone - I want the rest of the calls to go to my main office so they can be handled immediately. Most calls don't need to be handled directly by the location in question.

                                      So for this scenario, you create a ring group with the 2 users' extensions in it.
                                      Then you create a misc destination that ends the call to the main office's TN.

                                      Similar to this except I am failing it to another ring group.

                                      http://i.imgur.com/7hq4VOv.jpg

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        My current phone vendor will only support certified SIP providers (AKA - ones that pay them 😉 )

                                        So drop the phone vendor. Why are you keeping them if they are holding you ransom and costing you money?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          My current phone vendor will only support certified SIP providers (AKA - ones that pay them 😉 )

                                          So drop the phone vendor. Why are you keeping them if they are holding you ransom and costing you money?

                                          This is why I'm looking to my own PBX.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender I'm confused, I thought that you were not doing something because you were not replacing the PBX. So you can replace all sites at once and use a single trunk for all calls?

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