FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues
-
Remember these?
When of the many times I thought voip handsets were about to die off...
-
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
Even though I have all the UC apps I still find it so easy to click the app and have the physical phone go off hook. Or to just hit speakerphone to answer when I am sitting at my desk.
Nothing says you can't have a hardware phone connected to say - skype or What's App or Facetime, etc. It would be no different than a VOIP phone connecting to the services you sell today.
A great device will allow you to install any android app onto it to integrate with any IM/voice solution. Instead of the bluetooth headset today, you'd just use the handset on the phone.
-
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
I know Altigen and a lot of people have tried pushing those desk phones that are just a base for a mobile phone, but they have never taken off and I assume its because they must not work well.
I'm guessing people don't like the idea of plugging their mobile into the phone to make it work. That combined with the often high price of VOIP type phones compared to typical home POTS line phones - people haven't bought into it yet.
-
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
All the E-911 stuff is their with mobile. Even in the UCC apps I have been using (in case someone dialed 911 there instead of via their own phone).
I'm not talking about cellular mobile, I'm talking pure LTE with no phone system back end (like what we have today - AT&T/Verizon/CenturyLink, etc) Instead the phone would get rid of that radio for cellular calls, and only have LTE radios, and the other non "phone" things. Now how do you provide 911 like services? i think something like an Emergency help app required by law that would connect to some type of universal system and route calls based upon the LTE tower you're connected to.
-
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
https://i.imgur.com/roZ8R0u.png
36%, OK that's a lot lower than I thought it was.
That probably going to increase when Disney start their streaming service.
-
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
All the E-911 stuff is their with mobile. Even in the UCC apps I have been using (in case someone dialed 911 there instead of via their own phone).
I'm not talking about cellular mobile, I'm talking pure LTE with no phone system back end (like what we have today - AT&T/Verizon/CenturyLink, etc) Instead the phone would get rid of that radio for cellular calls, and only have LTE radios, and the other non "phone" things. Now how do you provide 911 like services? i think something like an Emergency help app required by law that would connect to some type of universal system and route calls based upon the LTE tower you're connected to.
VoLTE for Telecom and VoLGA for apps has been out for years (which is very commone in the EU like Orange Wireless)
I use only volte on my prepaid.
So it is already as you say
-
@black3dynamite said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
https://i.imgur.com/roZ8R0u.png
36%, OK that's a lot lower than I thought it was.
That probably going to increase when Disney start their streaming service.
This is only Netflix... not all streaming.. That must have been what I saw was north of 70%, all video streaming constitutes more than 70% of peak traffic.
-
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@black3dynamite said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
https://i.imgur.com/roZ8R0u.png
36%, OK that's a lot lower than I thought it was.
That probably going to increase when Disney start their streaming service.
This is only Netflix... not all streaming.. That must have been what I saw was north of 70%, all video streaming constitutes more than 70% of peak traffic.
Yeah that's pretty insane
-
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
All the E-911 stuff is their with mobile. Even in the UCC apps I have been using (in case someone dialed 911 there instead of via their own phone).
I'm not talking about cellular mobile, I'm talking pure LTE with no phone system back end (like what we have today - AT&T/Verizon/CenturyLink, etc) Instead the phone would get rid of that radio for cellular calls, and only have LTE radios, and the other non "phone" things. Now how do you provide 911 like services? i think something like an Emergency help app required by law that would connect to some type of universal system and route calls based upon the LTE tower you're connected to.
VoLTE for Telecom and VoLGA for apps has been out for years (which is very commone in the EU like Orange Wireless)
I use only volte on my prepaid.
So it is already as you say
I don't want that either - that's still totally reliant upon the strangle hold the phone companies have with the phone numbers. Plus I love the idea of decentralized communication.
We could use VOIP with something like Email or DomainName based connections, allowing PBXs to all talk direct over the internet to each other... Of course we talked about that the other day, and the issue with spam, but I have spam problems already, I don't know that it would be worse than it is today. Heck, one thing we'd be rid of is the cost of call - long distance would be dead, so having your PBX hacked resulting in huge phone bills because of the use of the LEC would be gone ( still bad to have your PBX hacked though).
-
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
I know Altigen
<-- triggered :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_closed_eyes:
-
All significant bandwidth 10+ years ago was porn, no joke.
Even Napster wasn’t too big a deal because of end customer upload limits.
-
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
All the E-911 stuff is their with mobile. Even in the UCC apps I have been using (in case someone dialed 911 there instead of via their own phone).
I'm not talking about cellular mobile, I'm talking pure LTE with no phone system back end (like what we have today - AT&T/Verizon/CenturyLink, etc) Instead the phone would get rid of that radio for cellular calls, and only have LTE radios, and the other non "phone" things. Now how do you provide 911 like services? i think something like an Emergency help app required by law that would connect to some type of universal system and route calls based upon the LTE tower you're connected to.
VoLTE for Telecom and VoLGA for apps has been out for years (which is very commone in the EU like Orange Wireless)
I use only volte on my prepaid.
So it is already as you say
I don't want that either - that's still totally reliant upon the strangle hold the phone companies have with the phone numbers. Plus I love the idea of decentralized communication.
We could use VOIP with something like Email or DomainName based connections, allowing PBXs to all talk direct over the internet to each other... Of course we talked about that the other day, and the issue with spam, but I have spam problems already, I don't know that it would be worse than it is today. Heck, one thing we'd be rid of is the cost of call - long distance would be dead, so having your PBX hacked resulting in huge phone bills because of the use of the LEC would be gone ( still bad to have your PBX hacked though).
That’s what VoLGA is. It provides reliable VoLTE for apps...
Voice over LTE General Access
Very popular just about everywhere bus the US
-
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
All the E-911 stuff is their with mobile. Even in the UCC apps I have been using (in case someone dialed 911 there instead of via their own phone).
I'm not talking about cellular mobile, I'm talking pure LTE with no phone system back end (like what we have today - AT&T/Verizon/CenturyLink, etc) Instead the phone would get rid of that radio for cellular calls, and only have LTE radios, and the other non "phone" things. Now how do you provide 911 like services? i think something like an Emergency help app required by law that would connect to some type of universal system and route calls based upon the LTE tower you're connected to.
VoLTE for Telecom and VoLGA for apps has been out for years (which is very commone in the EU like Orange Wireless)
I use only volte on my prepaid.
So it is already as you say
I don't want that either - that's still totally reliant upon the strangle hold the phone companies have with the phone numbers. Plus I love the idea of decentralized communication.
We could use VOIP with something like Email or DomainName based connections, allowing PBXs to all talk direct over the internet to each other... Of course we talked about that the other day, and the issue with spam, but I have spam problems already, I don't know that it would be worse than it is today. Heck, one thing we'd be rid of is the cost of call - long distance would be dead, so having your PBX hacked resulting in huge phone bills because of the use of the LEC would be gone ( still bad to have your PBX hacked though).
That’s what the domain based alias was for the signal.org I was doing.
Open and secured voice and messaging based on DNS, using VoLGA to carry and provide reliable voice quality.
Then can the tower thing, which crushed my life saving...
-
You might also be interested in the UMA concept, which in the USA is more commonly referred to as a General Access Network.
-
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
You might also be interested in the UMA concept, which in the USA is more commonly referred to as a General Access Network.
Yeah, no. I don’t want GAN because central network still.
-
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
You might also be interested in the UMA concept, which in the USA is more commonly referred to as a General Access Network.
Yeah, no. I don’t want GAN because central network still.
It is for voice/voice application access over network API's, so that you can deliver guaranteed VOIP over a carrier network. So if I want to deliver reliable voice and E911 to a data only device, GAN (or truly VOLGA or UMA) provides me as an independent voice app provider the ability to do that.
If not carrier towers then what would you prefer?
-
Also noticing Spectrum in my area is suddenly upgrading speeds to 200mb and even 400mb x 20mb for free! Just over the past week.
My dad got that UBNT Amplifi unit and the speedtest kept saying 200mb, so he thought it was wrong.
This all immediately following Net Neutrality bill? Whats the catch?
-
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
You might also be interested in the UMA concept, which in the USA is more commonly referred to as a General Access Network.
Yeah, no. I don’t want GAN because central network still.
It is for voice/voice application access over network API's, so that you can deliver guaranteed VOIP over a carrier network.
If not carrier towers then what would you prefer?
Assuming I read it right, GAN is about the phone connecting over the internet.
So no tower involvement.Please understand im talking about a situation I desire, not one that exist
-
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
You might also be interested in the UMA concept, which in the USA is more commonly referred to as a General Access Network.
Yeah, no. I don’t want GAN because central network still.
It is for voice/voice application access over network API's, so that you can deliver guaranteed VOIP over a carrier network.
If not carrier towers then what would you prefer?
Assuming I read it right, GAN is about the phone connecting over the internet.
So no tower involvement.Please understand im talking about a situation I desire, not one that exist
Sounds like you would have been a fan of the old Signal lol... completely decentralized towers.
-
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
You might also be interested in the UMA concept, which in the USA is more commonly referred to as a General Access Network.
Yeah, no. I don’t want GAN because central network still.
It is for voice/voice application access over network API's, so that you can deliver guaranteed VOIP over a carrier network.
If not carrier towers then what would you prefer?
Assuming I read it right, GAN is about the phone connecting over the internet.
So no tower involvement.Please understand im talking about a situation I desire, not one that exist
The positive about GAN/VoLGA/UMA is that you dont just have to provide best effort over the top OTT reliability. You can provide guarantee reliability across cellular and cable carriers.
'
This obsoletes the PSTN and allows any app to use its own signaling platform, the FCC refers to it as Nomadic VOIP.For some reason its popular in Europe and not here though.Also wideband is very common in Europe where you are only likely to experience here with Facetime calls and on-network VolTE calls. (The crystal clear audio).
