Arg! XenApp!
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I've had a number of responses to resumes sent out the past couple of weeks, but they've both had a requirement for XenApp experience. Ok says I, time to fire it up in the home lab. Trial and download pages both claim to support Linux (no actual distribution listed, should've been my first clue). I get to the installation instructions, and can only be installed on Windows Server.
I suppose I could grab the 30-day evaluation of Windows Server, but meh, I'd rather signup for an Azure account and grab a free 30 day trial that way, assuming that I want some actual hands-on experience with XenApp.
It does support distributing applications on RedHat and OpenSUSE, but won't run on them. If I'm distributing applications that are running on a linux distribution, why would I want to purchase the proper licensing for a bunch of Windows Servers to do it? Gr!
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XenApp is an extension of Windows RDS, so it need RDS to function. It can show apps from Linux, but not run on Linux.
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@travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:
If I'm distributing applications that are running on a linux distribution, why would I want to purchase the proper licensing for a bunch of Windows Servers to do it? Gr!
For the ICA protocol.
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ICA is the only reason you pay for XenApp. Since if you didn't want that, you'd have used RDS for cheaper. So it makes logical sense that if you are paying all that money for ICA, it applies to Windows and Linux workloads roughly equally.
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@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
ICA is the only reason you pay for XenApp. Since if you didn't want that, you'd have used RDS for cheaper. So it makes logical sense that if you are paying all that money for ICA, it applies to Windows and Linux workloads roughly equally.
Yeah, apparently I'm now motivated to go learn all about it. I'll have to take a look at ICA some more here.
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@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
See below:
https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.
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@travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
See below:
https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.
RDP used to just be cheap ICA. It was actually a stripped down ICA originally. They licensed it from Citrix.
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@travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
See below:
https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.
Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.
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@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
See below:
https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.
Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.
Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.
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@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
See below:
https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.
Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.
Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.
I meant native VDI
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config
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@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
See below:
https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.
Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.
Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.
I meant native VDI
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config
What does Native VDI mean? VDI only refers to something being virtualized. RDS is as much native VDI as any other remoting technology. VDI is just one to one usage, instead of many to one. VDI predates any modern VDI associated technologies.
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@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
See below:
https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.
Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.
Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.
I meant native VDI
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config
What does Native VDI mean? VDI only refers to something being virtualized. RDS is as much native VDI as any other remoting technology. VDI is just one to one usage, instead of many to one. VDI predates any modern VDI associated technologies.
Okay, in my case not involving additional software or application to set it up that is not Microsoft.
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@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
See below:
https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.
Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.
Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.
I meant native VDI
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config
What does Native VDI mean? VDI only refers to something being virtualized. RDS is as much native VDI as any other remoting technology. VDI is just one to one usage, instead of many to one. VDI predates any modern VDI associated technologies.
Okay, in my case not involving additional software or application to set it up that is not Microsoft.
RDS is all Microsoft. But MS and VDI have no tie together. You can do VDI with nothing but KVM and Linux guests.
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@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
@travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:
@dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:
See below:
https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.
Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.
Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.
I meant native VDI
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config
What does Native VDI mean? VDI only refers to something being virtualized. RDS is as much native VDI as any other remoting technology. VDI is just one to one usage, instead of many to one. VDI predates any modern VDI associated technologies.
Okay, in my case not involving additional software or application to set it up that is not Microsoft.
RDS is all Microsoft. But MS and VDI have no tie together. You can do VDI with nothing but KVM and Linux guests.
I get it... trying to place a standard into a box, ny bad.
