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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

      @stacksofplates said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

      I’ll be the annoying one. Why Pertino and not another mesh VPN like ZeroTier or Tinc?

      Also, I would use ZeroTier over Pertino.

      Same here.

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato
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        @joel said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

        ave installed Pertino (a cloud based software VPN) on our FileServer with the aim for external client laptops to access files from outside to the office. H

        What are the errors or logs you see on the Pertino software? What does your package analyzer show on the firewall or client?

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        • R3dPand4R
          R3dPand4
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          Just out of curiosity....why are you going with a separate VPN product? The SSL Client VPN from WatchGuard is free and works fine.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @R3dPand4
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            @r3dpand4 said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

            Just out of curiosity....why are you going with a separate VPN product? The SSL Client VPN from WatchGuard is free and works fine.

            Totally different type of product.

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            • JoelJ
              Joel
              last edited by Joel

              I dont know ZeroTier - I pressume it's similar? I'll take a look at it - why would you pick that over Pertino? I do believe our Watchguard is blocking the outbound connections. What ports do Pertino use (anyone know off the top?) I can see our firewall is denying 56436 AND 56511

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Joel
                last edited by

                @joel said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                I dont know ZeroTier - I pressume it's similar? I'll take a look at it - why would you pick that over Pertino? I do believe our Watchguard is blocking the outbound connections. What ports do Pertino use (anyone know off the top?)

                They use 443.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @JaredBusch
                  last edited by stacksofplates

                  @jaredbusch said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                  @joel said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                  I dont know ZeroTier - I pressume it's similar? I'll take a look at it - why would you pick that over Pertino? I do believe our Watchguard is blocking the outbound connections. What ports do Pertino use (anyone know off the top?)

                  They use 443.

                  The only other port ZeroTier uses is 9993/udp, but that's to help with local LAN detection. But it's not necessary.

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                  • JoelJ
                    Joel
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                    I just took a look at ZT and I like that it works on QNAP and Synology too - very useful. I may have to look at this 🙂

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Joel
                      last edited by

                      @joel said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                      I just took a look at ZT and I like that it works on QNAP and Synology too - very useful. I may have to look at this 🙂

                      One of my clients has the paid subscription to get notifications of ZT going down on selected devices. It is quite useful.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Joel
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                        @joel said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                        I just took a look at ZT and I like that it works on QNAP and Synology too - very useful. I may have to look at this 🙂

                        It's very broad support.

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                        • K
                          krisleslie
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                          just took a look at ZT and I like th

                          Scott is there a use case for Pertino anymore ? I still have them.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                            @krisleslie said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                            just took a look at ZT and I like th

                            Scott is there a use case for Pertino anymore ? I still have them.

                            If you have them already, they are fine. And they do some decent AD management stuff that is unique (I designed that 😉 but overall, what they offer isn't really unique and they are way more expensive than their more advanced competition. So my feeling is that their place is pretty niche today.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                              @krisleslie said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Cradlepoint (Pertino) VPN and Watchguard Firewall:

                              just took a look at ZT and I like th

                              Scott is there a use case for Pertino anymore ? I still have them.

                              If you have them already, they are fine. And they do some decent AD management stuff that is unique (I designed that 😉 but overall, what they offer isn't really unique and they are way more expensive than their more advanced competition. So my feeling is that their place is pretty niche today.

                              It is important to note that today that @scottalanmiller ended with. When Pertino started in 2012, there was not anything good on the market to compare.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Exactly, times change. They have new and more modern competition and I've not seen Pertino do anything to keep up.

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                                  Jimmy9008
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                                  Connect to your Watchguard with WSM. Go to Policy and check the rules.
                                  Do you have a policy for TCP(0)/UDP(0), From 'Any', to 'Any-External'.?
                                  If so, then 443 request out from the device will be allowed.

                                  If you do not have that rule, or a similar rule but with the IP of the device withing the 'From' column, TCP/UDP will not be allowed out.

                                  I believe Watchguard standard configuration is to stop all out, then allow only particular things out that are allowed. Rather than allow all out.

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                                    scotth
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                                    If your configuration is recent and the OS level is 12.x or better, out of the box the proxies enabled should be http, https, pop, smtp, ftp & tcp/udp. The settings are quite generic and you'll want to examine the live log as you attempt to connect looking for deny's. You may need to bump up the logging in the individual policies to catch your issue. The exception(s) can then be added to the proxy creating the issue.

                                    I use OpenVPN as a client and connect to my network so I can't help or comment on your product.

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                                    • K
                                      krisleslie
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                                      It's still an expense for us. The only sticking point is the AD Connect which of course is awesome.

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