Home Network Setup
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
For DNS and DHCP, I'd either replace the Spectrum router entirely with an EdgeRouter Lite (~$95 from Amazon) and do it all there to keep things nice and simple, or run a Linux VM, probably Fedora or CentOS, to do this. Keep it simple. Everything does DHCP and DHS, there is no upside to having something special for that.
VyOS is does a awesome job has a router.
There’s even a nice howto setup too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
DDNS yes, but for internal. Windows DNS is dynamic DNS, as machines come and go from the network, they join and DNS, and update IP if changed.
Oh, that's not Dynanic DNS as I know the term. That's just DHCP based automation.
It can use DHCP, but doesn't have to, at least as I understand it.
Without DHCP, where would the info come from?
Windows also has the option to only allow secure updates. To allow all devices to register you will have to choose nonsecure dynamic updates. -
@black3dynamite said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
For DNS and DHCP, I'd either replace the Spectrum router entirely with an EdgeRouter Lite (~$95 from Amazon) and do it all there to keep things nice and simple, or run a Linux VM, probably Fedora or CentOS, to do this. Keep it simple. Everything does DHCP and DHS, there is no upside to having something special for that.
VyOS is does a awesome job has a router.
There’s even a nice howto setup too.
https://wiki.vyos.net/wiki/User_GuideI believe that @scottalanmiller setup a VyOS system on a box in front of the Scale system that NTG has at Colocation America. And then it subsequently blew up. Cannot recall him ever posting a root cause.
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@jaredbusch said in Home Network Setup:
@black3dynamite said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
For DNS and DHCP, I'd either replace the Spectrum router entirely with an EdgeRouter Lite (~$95 from Amazon) and do it all there to keep things nice and simple, or run a Linux VM, probably Fedora or CentOS, to do this. Keep it simple. Everything does DHCP and DHS, there is no upside to having something special for that.
VyOS is does a awesome job has a router.
There’s even a nice howto setup too.
https://wiki.vyos.net/wiki/User_GuideI believe that @scottalanmiller setup a VyOS system on a box in front of the Scale system that NTG has at Colocation America. And then it subsequently blew up. Cannot recall him ever posting a root cause.
Oh that's easy, root cause is the drives died
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
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@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Umm WTF? Windows does not self register DDNS. Where did that come from?
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@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)
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@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)
That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)
That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?
Seriously? why would I not want to have to buy Windows CALs? really?
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Here is the alternate.... on a non-Windows network, I don't want DNS listing random dynamic guests. That's the simplest solution. Windows does something I have no desire to have. Given that I don't know what purpose it serves, it's hard to figure out what you are actually looking to accomplish.
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@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)
That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?
Seriously? why would I not want to have to buy Windows CALs? really?
Perhaps it's a non issue - I have user based CALs, and assuming I only allow users on my network, they would already be covered. So I perhaps don't have a real need for this??
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@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)
That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?
Seriously? why would I not want to have to buy Windows CALs? really?
What does that have to do with the question?
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)
That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?
Seriously? why would I not want to have to buy Windows CALs? really?
What does that have to do with the question?
The question is - how do I provide DHCP/DNS services to devices that will never otherwise talk to a Windows system hence requiring a Windows CAL license.
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@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)
That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?
Seriously? why would I not want to have to buy Windows CALs? really?
Perhaps it's a non issue - I have user based CALs, and assuming I only allow users on my network, they would already be covered. So I perhaps don't have a real need for this??
The question is only this....
Why do you want dynamically updated DNS on your network?
If your goal is to replace Windows, ask how to do that, not how to do this thing. This is in the weeds. This is a technical piece, not a goal itself. Who cares about this if you don't need it?
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@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)
That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?
Seriously? why would I not want to have to buy Windows CALs? really?
The reason is to be able to use hostnames as opposed to IP addresses. Windows accomplishes this via their Dynamic Updates (which is not DDNS that's something completely different) so machines will auto-update their own DNS entries like they currently do with Windows DNS and Windows DHCP. As far as I'm aware the DHCP server doesn't actually do updates to the DNS records the clients do the updates.
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@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@dashrender said in Home Network Setup:
If so, does UBNT based gear support dynamic DNS?
DDNS? Like for external use?
So now that we know that Windows can self register with DDNS, thoughts on moving away from Windows based DHCP and DNS for internal networks? Any chance UNBT gear can or ever would support this?
Let's back up. Why would you want this? What's the goal here?
to have a single DHCP/DNS setup for all network devices without paying Windows CALs for non Windows devices (devices that won't be accessing windows services/servers)
That's not a goal, that's a solution. What's the REASON you want any of that?
Seriously? why would I not want to have to buy Windows CALs? really?
What does that have to do with the question?
The question is - how do I provide DHCP/DNS services to devices that will never otherwise talk to a Windows system hence requiring a Windows CAL license.
And my question is going to keep being "Why do you care?"
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@coliver said in Home Network Setup:
The reason is to be able to use hostnames as opposed to IP addresses.
Still not a goal. Why does your CEO want this?
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@scottalanmiller I’m confused also
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Network Setup:
@coliver said in Home Network Setup:
The reason is to be able to use hostnames as opposed to IP addresses.
Still not a goal. Why does your CEO want this?
Scott - please don't inject someone else into this conversation. This is a theoretical question, nothing more.
If you need a real situation here you go.
You have a warehouse, you have warehouse people and office people. The warehouse people use hand scanners that get DHCP assigned addresses, but otherwise do not use and Windows services (nor do the users). These devices are on the same network as laptops for the office workers.
Assuming Windows Server is providing DHCP/DNS to those hand held device, you need a Windows Server CAL for each and every one. Solve for x.
