Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia
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@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller Ah okay, understandable. I can still use CodeAnywhere, no biggy.
Right. Or just SSH into a Linux VM, that's what @QuixoticJeremy and I do.
Perfect.
It's ideal because then we control the development VM, and can take backups, and automate things and make sure that all packages are exactly what we want for production without needing to find ways to make laptops and desktops match that environment. Which is especially hard if you try to do that on a Chromebook that is often not even AMD64 architecture. So you often can't even run the same OS, let alone have a matching version. And many things that you want for production might be problematic on a light laptop.
Examples would be Java environments, databases, caches and such. Things that suck down resources, even for just a test environment.
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@dashrender Yeah I could see why that might be hard, I might be "that guy" in certain groups where I'm just more difficult to involve in things, and I may honestly get passed up on invites to things because it requires an extra step to contact me. Either way, to me it's worth not supporting that site. I despise the structure itself, the content that's regularly shared, and the business practices behind the scenes.
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@scottalanmiller said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller Ah okay, understandable. I can still use CodeAnywhere, no biggy.
Right. Or just SSH into a Linux VM, that's what @QuixoticJeremy and I do.
I can and have done development with vi and/or nano for more than one or two files... I severely dislike this. Setups like Codiad or CodeAnywhere are much more to my liking.
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@dafyre said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller Ah okay, understandable. I can still use CodeAnywhere, no biggy.
Right. Or just SSH into a Linux VM, that's what @QuixoticJeremy and I do.
I can and have done development with vi and/or nano for more than one or two files... I severely dislike this. Setups like Codiad or CodeAnywhere are much more to my liking.
We tried other tools, keep coming back to vi. It's just so fast and easy.
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@scottalanmiller I could definitely see that, aren't a lot of Chromebooks running ARM now? My partner and I moved to vm development with our latest project, and I'll never go back. We are beginning to incorporate containers, but that's more so for for the team after we're gone than it is for us at the moment.
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@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller I could definitely see that, aren't a lot of Chromebooks running ARM now?
Used to all be on ARM. Now some low end AMD64 is starting to show up, but they never seem as nice as their ARM counterparts.
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@scottalanmiller @dafyre The extent of my experience with vi thus far is just simple things like copying and editing eth config files to make bridges on CentOS7/KVM hosts.
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@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller @dafyre The extent of my experience with vi thus far is just simple things like copying and editing eth config files to make bridges on CentOS7/KVM hosts.
In six figure developer shops, it seems to be the most common tool that I see. It's universally available, universally known, rock solid, really fast and easy once learned, doesn't put all this annoying crap in your face to make things hard, works everywhere unlike fat apps which often don't, and just works... that's the biggest thing. Doesn't require all kinds of special considerations and management to get the basics done.
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@scottalanmiller said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@dafyre said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller Ah okay, understandable. I can still use CodeAnywhere, no biggy.
Right. Or just SSH into a Linux VM, that's what @QuixoticJeremy and I do.
I can and have done development with vi and/or nano for more than one or two files... I severely dislike this. Setups like Codiad or CodeAnywhere are much more to my liking.
We tried other tools, keep coming back to vi. It's just so fast and easy.
For small things, sure, but needing to switch between files constantly? I could see using tmux or screen for that.
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@dafyre said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@dafyre said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller Ah okay, understandable. I can still use CodeAnywhere, no biggy.
Right. Or just SSH into a Linux VM, that's what @QuixoticJeremy and I do.
I can and have done development with vi and/or nano for more than one or two files... I severely dislike this. Setups like Codiad or CodeAnywhere are much more to my liking.
We tried other tools, keep coming back to vi. It's just so fast and easy.
For small things, sure, but needing to switch between files constantly? I could see using tmux or screen for that.
That's why we have things like screen or tabbed terminals
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@scottalanmiller Nice, I'll definitely have to dedicate some more time to getting it down.
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@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller Nice, I'll definitely have to dedicate some more time to getting it down.
It's got a tough up front learning curve, but there are huge reasons that you want to use it for UNIX administration, and decent ones to consider it for development.
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@scottalanmiller I'm sure the payoff is well worth it though.
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@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller I'm sure the payoff is well worth it though.
Yes, especially as it is used in so many places. It's the editor I use most. No matter where I am or what I am doing, it's the one thing that is always there.
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I'm really liking the E7270 so far... highly portable 12.5-inch and runs F26 and KVM like a champ.
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@tim_g said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
I'm really liking the E7270 so far... highly portable 12.5-inch and runs F26 and KVM like a champ.
My tiny Dell with Fedora 26 is awesome, too. but I still prefer the Chromebook when I can use it.
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@tim_g Nice I'll take a look at that as well
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@scottalanmiller @Tim_G while we're on the topic of portables and Linux distros, do either of you have an opinion on Mint vs Korora? I'm thinking I'll like the xfce desktop, but what have you found to be enjoyable and perform well?
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@r3dpand4 said in Chromebooks and Mild Paranoia:
@scottalanmiller @Tim_G while we're on the topic of portables and Linux distros, do either of you have an opinion on Mint vs Korora? I'm thinking I'll like the xfce desktop, but what have you found to be enjoyable and perform well?
Both are good. Mint is based on outdated LTS Ubuntu. Korora can't keep up with Fedora. I've used both and have moved to Fedora itself and found it better than either. I used Mint's Cinnamon on Fedora, it's great.
