Company Benefits
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@john-nicholson said in Company Benefits:
@scottalanmiller said in Company Benefits:
Common tactic for start ups is to offer stock that isn't public so can't be traded (or traded easily.) It sounds great but often leaves you with stock worth nothing. Have to be very careful with this. What is great in a large public company can be a totally bad move in a small one
It's worse than that. You may get options that when you exercise them to generate a tax event. So you PAY money to the IRS for something that ends up worthless!
Yeah, it can get pretty bad.
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Other benefits we have are Pinball machine break rooms, foosball, table tennis. Free fruit, and bagels, cereal, and fruits and snacks. The M&M's they tried to remove, led to the great M&M engineering riots of 2009 the rumor goes. Now they refill the M&M canisters twice a day. We have cofve machines so complicated that I have to seek someone out to operate them.
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@nerdydad said in Company Benefits:
@john-nicholson said in Company Benefits:
cofve
Is that Trump coffee?
I had the same thought.
Coffeffe
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@john-nicholson said in Company Benefits:
Other benefits we have are Pinball machine break rooms, foosball, table tennis.
That wouldn't fly too well for us.
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@john-nicholson said in Company Benefits:
Free fruit, and bagels, cereal, and fruits and snacks.
My QA department would throw an absolute conniption fit over this. Food brings in bugs, which is a risk for them.
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@nerdydad said in Company Benefits:
Free fruit, and bagels, cereal, and fruits and snacks.
My QA department would throw an absolute conniption fit over this. Food brings in bugs, which is a risk for them.
The fruit is thrown out every day by the cleaning staff, the dried figs, and dates and stuff are all sealed in containers (Checked twice a day as it gets refilled).
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@nerdydad said in Company Benefits:
@john-nicholson said in Company Benefits:
Free fruit, and bagels, cereal, and fruits and snacks.
My QA department would throw an absolute conniption fit over this. Food brings in bugs, which is a risk for them.
Eliminate all of the meat and people then, those are the BIG bug concerns.
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Sit/Stand desks. Is that really considered a benefit?
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@nerdydad said in Company Benefits:
Sit/Stand desks. Is that really considered a benefit?
I only use stand desks. Chairs are too uncomfortable.
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@nerdydad said in Company Benefits:
Sit/Stand desks. Is that really considered a benefit?
Yes, they are. A big one, in fact. I forgot because I didn't have one, that at the place with all the food we had those too.
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The owner pays out bonuses to all the employees twice yearly, but it is simply profit sharing.
Basically he keeps cash banked to handle XX months of payroll. Then as long as we have that he pays out the overage as a bonus to us based on full time / part time and how long we been here.
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@jaredbusch said in Company Benefits:
The owner pays out bonuses to all the employees twice yearly, but it is simply profit sharing.
Basically he keeps cash banked to handle XX months of payroll. Then as long as we have that he pays out the overage as a bonus to us based on full time / part time and how long we been here.
Yeah, and bonuses get taxed like crazy. If you get a 5k bonus, you get less than half of it in your pocket.
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@tim_g said in Company Benefits:
@jaredbusch said in Company Benefits:
The owner pays out bonuses to all the employees twice yearly, but it is simply profit sharing.
Basically he keeps cash banked to handle XX months of payroll. Then as long as we have that he pays out the overage as a bonus to us based on full time / part time and how long we been here.
Yeah, and bonuses get taxed like crazy. If you get a 5k bonus, you get less than half of it in your pocket.
I tell the accountants to mark me exempt for the week. You can change your status a few times a year without causing issues.
At a prior job (and before I was married with kids) I would calculate my yearly income taxes out and then change payroll in november to exempt once I knew I had met my expected pay in.
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@tim_g said in Company Benefits:
@jaredbusch said in Company Benefits:
The owner pays out bonuses to all the employees twice yearly, but it is simply profit sharing.
Basically he keeps cash banked to handle XX months of payroll. Then as long as we have that he pays out the overage as a bonus to us based on full time / part time and how long we been here.
Yeah, and bonuses get taxed like crazy. If you get a 5k bonus, you get less than half of it in your pocket.
I'm not sure if your serious but...
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@jaredbusch said in Company Benefits:
@tim_g said in Company Benefits:
@jaredbusch said in Company Benefits:
The owner pays out bonuses to all the employees twice yearly, but it is simply profit sharing.
Basically he keeps cash banked to handle XX months of payroll. Then as long as we have that he pays out the overage as a bonus to us based on full time / part time and how long we been here.
Yeah, and bonuses get taxed like crazy. If you get a 5k bonus, you get less than half of it in your pocket.
I tell the accountants to mark me exempt for the week. You can change your status a few times a year without causing issues.
At a prior job (and before I was married with kids) I would calculate my yearly income taxes out and then change payroll in november to exempt once I knew I had met my expected pay in.
Why stop there! Set it to exempt for the whole year!
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@john-nicholson said in Company Benefits:
@jaredbusch said in Company Benefits:
@tim_g said in Company Benefits:
@jaredbusch said in Company Benefits:
The owner pays out bonuses to all the employees twice yearly, but it is simply profit sharing.
Basically he keeps cash banked to handle XX months of payroll. Then as long as we have that he pays out the overage as a bonus to us based on full time / part time and how long we been here.
Yeah, and bonuses get taxed like crazy. If you get a 5k bonus, you get less than half of it in your pocket.
I tell the accountants to mark me exempt for the week. You can change your status a few times a year without causing issues.
At a prior job (and before I was married with kids) I would calculate my yearly income taxes out and then change payroll in november to exempt once I knew I had met my expected pay in.
Why stop there! Set it to exempt for the whole year!
I balanced it out for a close to net 0 federal income tax return.
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@john-nicholson said in Company Benefits:
@tim_g said in Company Benefits:
@jaredbusch said in Company Benefits:
The owner pays out bonuses to all the employees twice yearly, but it is simply profit sharing.
Basically he keeps cash banked to handle XX months of payroll. Then as long as we have that he pays out the overage as a bonus to us based on full time / part time and how long we been here.
Yeah, and bonuses get taxed like crazy. If you get a 5k bonus, you get less than half of it in your pocket.
I'm not sure if your serious but...
...then I would tell you your wrong, way, way wrong!
about 3.5x more CA and FITW taxes taken out, than on a regular income check that's even more than the bonus.
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@tim_g said in Company Benefits:
@john-nicholson said in Company Benefits:
@tim_g said in Company Benefits:
@jaredbusch said in Company Benefits:
The owner pays out bonuses to all the employees twice yearly, but it is simply profit sharing.
Basically he keeps cash banked to handle XX months of payroll. Then as long as we have that he pays out the overage as a bonus to us based on full time / part time and how long we been here.
Yeah, and bonuses get taxed like crazy. If you get a 5k bonus, you get less than half of it in your pocket.
I'm not sure if your serious but...
...then I would tell you your wrong, way, way wrong!
about 3.5x more CA and FITW taxes taken out, than on a regular income check that's even more than the bonus.
You are wrong. It is all the same in the end.
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Bonuses aren't even a real thing to the IRS, it's literally just part of your pay. At least that's how it has always been where I have gotten bonuses. It's just a paycheck with a larger amount in it that normal, the IRS doesn't have a "this is a bonus" checkbox to even know that it is a bonus to be taxed differently. At the end of the year, your bonus is just part of your pay, it can't be taxed differently because there is nowhere for it to show up.
