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    • coliverC
      coliver @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

      @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

      @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

      What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

      I think he means with full features

      What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

      Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

      What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

      Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

      The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @gjacobse
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        @gjacobse said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

        Why does it have to be limited to Office / Office 365? There are a few things that I use/used that just don't work in Linux - Correctable? sure,.. but at the vendor level - They don't have a Linux version; MAC and Windows yes,.. Linux no.

        While is case is Skype a MS product - the sub product is not; my Jabra headset - which I use daily to receive phone and skype calls.

        Using it with the Yealink phone is no trouble. it's when I go to use Skype that I have the issue. I have to manually answer the Skype call, which means I have to be at the computer. And then I have to change the audio settings so the audio out uses the headset over the speakers - and when done, I have to reverse the process.

        It's a simple solution - go back to Windows - and wait for Jabra to release a Linux version.

        This is the biggest issue with moving any shop to a Linux OS - end user solutions.

        Linux OSes have solutions for most anything in the DC, but end user - all those gadgets, mini apps, etc - they just aren't there for Linux OSes.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

          @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

          @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

          @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

          What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

          I think he means with full features

          What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

          Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

          What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

          Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

          The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

          They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

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          • coliverC
            coliver @wirestyle22
            last edited by

            @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

            @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

            What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

            I think he means with full features

            What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

            Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.

            I'm not really sure what you're asking here.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

              @gjacobse said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

              Why does it have to be limited to Office / Office 365? There are a few things that I use/used that just don't work in Linux - Correctable? sure,.. but at the vendor level - They don't have a Linux version; MAC and Windows yes,.. Linux no.

              While is case is Skype a MS product - the sub product is not; my Jabra headset - which I use daily to receive phone and skype calls.

              Using it with the Yealink phone is no trouble. it's when I go to use Skype that I have the issue. I have to manually answer the Skype call, which means I have to be at the computer. And then I have to change the audio settings so the audio out uses the headset over the speakers - and when done, I have to reverse the process.

              It's a simple solution - go back to Windows - and wait for Jabra to release a Linux version.

              This is the biggest issue with moving any shop to a Linux OS - end user solutions.

              Linux OSes have solutions for most anything in the DC, but end user - all those gadgets, mini apps, etc - they just aren't there for Linux OSes.

              No - they aren't.. but in some cases it's the reverse as well. They are in Linux but not Windows..

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                I think he means with full features

                What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.

                I'm not really sure what you're asking here.

                You can't point the online version to a local file server which complicates the end users lives from what I remember although I'm a little hazy on the details

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                  @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                  @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                  @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                  What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                  I think he means with full features

                  What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                  Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                  What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                  Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

                  The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

                  They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

                  Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                    @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                    @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                    @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                    @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                    What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                    I think he means with full features

                    What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                    Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.

                    I'm not really sure what you're asking here.

                    You can't open a document stored on a local file share or your desktop inside the online version of Office. You have to upload it to SharePoint or ODfB first. But if you have O365, you can do this easily enough.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                      @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                      @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                      What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                      I think he means with full features

                      What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                      Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.

                      I'm not really sure what you're asking here.

                      You can't point the online version to a local file server which complicates the end users lives from what I remember although I'm a little hazy on the details

                      Still have no idea what you're talking about. Online version of what?

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @coliver
                        last edited by wirestyle22

                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                        What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                        I think he means with full features

                        What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                        Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                        What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                        Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

                        The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

                        They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

                        Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.

                        Should but don't. We are forced to deal with the BS of our end users as we have no real power here. I'd imagine a lot of MSP's are in a similar situation.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                          @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                          @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                          What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                          I think he means with full features

                          What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                          Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.

                          I'm not really sure what you're asking here.

                          You can't open a document stored on a local file share or your desktop inside the online version of Office. You have to upload it to SharePoint or ODfB first. But if you have O365, you can do this easily enough.

                          Oh I see what you're saying. Again this assumes you are using Microsoft Office, which in a Linux shop isn't guaranteed.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @gjacobse
                            last edited by

                            @gjacobse said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                            @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                            @gjacobse said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                            Why does it have to be limited to Office / Office 365? There are a few things that I use/used that just don't work in Linux - Correctable? sure,.. but at the vendor level - They don't have a Linux version; MAC and Windows yes,.. Linux no.

                            While is case is Skype a MS product - the sub product is not; my Jabra headset - which I use daily to receive phone and skype calls.

                            Using it with the Yealink phone is no trouble. it's when I go to use Skype that I have the issue. I have to manually answer the Skype call, which means I have to be at the computer. And then I have to change the audio settings so the audio out uses the headset over the speakers - and when done, I have to reverse the process.

                            It's a simple solution - go back to Windows - and wait for Jabra to release a Linux version.

                            This is the biggest issue with moving any shop to a Linux OS - end user solutions.

                            Linux OSes have solutions for most anything in the DC, but end user - all those gadgets, mini apps, etc - they just aren't there for Linux OSes.

                            No - they aren't.. but in some cases it's the reverse as well. They are in Linux but not Windows..

                            When has this really affected normal users? What app would normal users love to have that's only in Linux OSes, but no Windows or Mac?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                              What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                              I think he means with full features

                              What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                              Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                              What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                              Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

                              The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

                              They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

                              Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.

                              This totally assume no collaboration. Is that reasonable?

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                I think he means with full features

                                What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                Can't you only use cloud storage when you use it like that? I could be wrong but I remember a storage limitation like that.

                                I'm not really sure what you're asking here.

                                You can't point the online version to a local file server which complicates the end users lives from what I remember although I'm a little hazy on the details

                                Still have no idea what you're talking about. Online version of what?

                                MS Office - the online apps included with O365.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by coliver

                                  @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                  What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                  I think he means with full features

                                  What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                  Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                  What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                                  Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

                                  The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

                                  They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

                                  Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.

                                  Should but don't. We are forced to deal with the BS of our end users as we have no real power here. I'd imagine a lot of MSP's are in a similar situation.

                                  Sure... but why would you create a rule based on the exceptions? Windows 10 has an included PDF printer. Linux distributions has had it forever. If you get something in a doc format there is no guarantee that someone, even with Microsoft Office, will have the same formatting, fonts, etc, etc.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                    What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                    I think he means with full features

                                    What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                    Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                    What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                                    Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

                                    The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

                                    They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

                                    Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.

                                    This totally assume no collaboration. Is that reasonable?

                                    It would be more reasonable if we could realistically affect policy, but we can't.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                      What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                      I think he means with full features

                                      What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                      Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                      What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                                      Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

                                      The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

                                      They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

                                      Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.

                                      This totally assume no collaboration. Is that reasonable?

                                      Collaboration can be done using the lowest common denominator. Send the file in an RTF format if that's required... or better yet use Sharepoint or Office Online to do live collaboration and single master documents.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                        What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                        I think he means with full features

                                        What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                        Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                        What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                                        Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

                                        The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

                                        They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

                                        Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.

                                        Should but don't. We are forced to deal with the BS of our end users as we have no real power here. I'd imagine a lot of MSP's are in a similar situation.

                                        Sure... but why would you create a rule based on the exceptions? Windows 10 has an included PDF printer. Linux has had it forever. If you get something in a doc format there is no guarantee that someone, even with Microsoft Office, will have the same formatting, fonts, etc, etc.

                                        But it's much more likely. And again, assumes no collaboration.

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                                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

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                                          @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                          What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                          I think he means with full features

                                          What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                          Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                          What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                                          Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

                                          The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

                                          They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

                                          Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.

                                          Should but don't. We are forced to deal with the BS of our end users as we have no real power here. I'd imagine a lot of MSP's are in a similar situation.

                                          Sure... but why would you create a rule based on the exceptions? Windows 10 has an included PDF printer. Linux has had it forever. If you get something in a doc format there is no guarantee that someone, even with Microsoft Office, will have the same formatting, fonts, etc, etc.

                                          The director of purchasing has the ability to convert PDF's to word and she refuses to do it. Sends it to us and then the mayors office calls us and asks us to do it. It's like two clicks. That's what we are dealing with here and that's just one example. The people here suck and are completely stubborn and ignorant.

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                                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @dashrender said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            @coliver said in If a business were all linux would they use Office 365:

                                            What prevents them from using O365? It's generally one of the least expensive enterprise email solutions available.

                                            I think he means with full features

                                            What features would be missing? Email, calendaring, contacts, OneDrive, Sharepoint, Skype for Business, are all available on Linux in one form or another.

                                            Well specifically you left off all of the MS Office apps that can be installed locally. But I'm pretty sure it was Scott who said that WINE was originally created because someone wanted to run MS Office on Linux OSes

                                            What benefit does Microsoft Office provide to a Linux shop that LibreOffice doesn't provide?

                                            Libreoffice often requires conversion of the more complex office documents. If you can't seamlessly open them and have everything displayed correctly it's not very useful IMO. It's a little different if you're just starting your company and it starts as linux right in the beginning though.

                                            The topic was about a Linux shop. If we're talking about a mixed shop you have a point, although it's not as big of an issue lately as it has been in the past.

                                            They are likely to receive some type of office documentation via e-mail here so I'm considering that too

                                            Any received or sent document shouldn't be in a doc format. They should be sending, and expecting, documents in pdf.

                                            This totally assume no collaboration. Is that reasonable?

                                            Collaboration can be done using the lowest common denominator. Send the file in an RTF format if that's required... or better yet use Sharepoint or Office Online to do live collaboration and single master documents.

                                            Does that work for non company people? i.e. I need to collaborate with another business? One who doesn't have O365?

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