Jump on the resume bandwagon
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@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
This is a great question - of course - the unwashed masses say - don't go to two pages.. what does Scott say?
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@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
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@dashrender said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
This is a great question - of course - the unwashed masses say - don't go to two pages.. what does Scott say?
It depends, if you have proper content you need enough pages to hold it. So it depends what it is.
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How do you deal with the fact that it looks like you only have 2 years of experience?
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@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
That's a lot of important content. The current one page makes it look like you have two TOTAL years of experience.
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@dashrender said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
How do you deal with the fact that it looks like you only have 2 years of experience?
Exactly.
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@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
That's a lot of important content. The current one page makes it look like you have two TOTAL years of experience.
Ok I'll include it. I wasn't sure if the consulting would turn people off or not.
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@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
That's a lot of important content. The current one page makes it look like you have two TOTAL years of experience.
Ok I'll include it. I wasn't sure if he consulting would turn people off or not.
I owned a consulting shop for 5 years - without it, there is a 5 year gap in my employment.
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@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
That's a lot of important content. The current one page makes it look like you have two TOTAL years of experience.
Ok I'll include it. I wasn't sure if the consulting would turn people off or not.
Why would consulting be a turn off? Nearly my entire career is consulting.
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@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
That's a lot of important content. The current one page makes it look like you have two TOTAL years of experience.
Ok I'll include it. I wasn't sure if the consulting would turn people off or not.
Why would consulting be a turn off? Nearly my entire career is consulting.
Just the fact that they were all small businesses. I didn't know if that would clash with the fact that I'm trying to move up in the enterprise world. And it was my own shop. Not like someone hired me as a consultant.
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Plus I also wasn't sure how far back you're supposed to go. If it's a specific number of jobs or a certain amount of time.
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Everyone comes from somewhere.
I think it's better to show you have grown, instead of just throwing two years of mid/high level things at people. I'd be like - uh.. so, you just woke up one day and knew all this stuff? Damn, you're better that S.A.M.
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@dashrender said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Everyone comes from somewhere.
I think it's better to show you have grown, instead of just throwing two years of mid/high level things at people. I'd be like - uh.. so, you just woke up one day and knew all this stuff? Damn, you're better that S.A.M.I'm bad at talking about myself also, so there's a lot of that in here.
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@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
That's a lot of important content. The current one page makes it look like you have two TOTAL years of experience.
Ok I'll include it. I wasn't sure if the consulting would turn people off or not.
Why would consulting be a turn off? Nearly my entire career is consulting.
Just the fact that they were all small businesses. I didn't know if that would clash with the fact that I'm trying to move up in the enterprise world. And it was my own shop. Not like someone hired me as a consultant.
It was my work in the SMB that got me into the enterprise. Enterprise does not avoid SMB people, that's a SW myth.
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@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
And it was my own shop.
I know some people that have gotten hired or promoted because they ran/run their own business. Doesn't seem to me like it mattered whether the business was related to the job either. I wouldn't drop that unless it was some sort of horror story you just can't talk about.
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@ndc said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
And it was my own shop.
I know some people that have gotten hired or promoted because they ran/run their own business. Doesn't seem to me like it mattered whether the business was related to the job either. I wouldn't drop that unless it was some sort of horror story you just can't talk about.
Running your own business shows that you were forced to do things in IT that normal IT people might never see. IT people who have run their own business for any length of time have an ability, in most cases, to sympathize with companies in a way that normal employees cannot or are unlikely to because they've never been exposed to it. As IT is just a "business" component, not a tech one, business experience is 100% applicable.
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Just glancing at the resume, I feel like you're giving away too much information. Highlight specific projects/accomplishments, but don't go too deep or technical. I think you can reduce the wordiness of your bullet points considerably and still communicate what you are trying to get across. You want to highlight your achievements without giving away specifics. The specifics of what you did are what you want to discuss in an interview. Bait the hook, don't give them a free lunch.
I also agree with adding in your consulting business and your experience with T3 support.
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@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
That's a lot of important content. The current one page makes it look like you have two TOTAL years of experience.
Ok I'll include it. I wasn't sure if the consulting would turn people off or not.
Why would consulting be a turn off? Nearly my entire career is consulting.
Just the fact that they were all small businesses. I didn't know if that would clash with the fact that I'm trying to move up in the enterprise world. And it was my own shop. Not like someone hired me as a consultant.
I've been involved with hiring before and the ones doing hiring generally did look at Mom and Pop's IT consultancy as a negative. I have seen ALOT of resume's that use a consultancy to fill gaps or to make them look more experienced.
There is no easy way to tell if the person just filed paperwork for LLC or if they actually had customers. Most of the time they didn't even have websites or if they did they were just so poor they were obviously dated and never updated.
It's tough because actual consultancy experience is very valuable, but I have seen consultancies put on resumes and faked time and time again.
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@irj said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
That's a lot of important content. The current one page makes it look like you have two TOTAL years of experience.
Ok I'll include it. I wasn't sure if the consulting would turn people off or not.
Why would consulting be a turn off? Nearly my entire career is consulting.
Just the fact that they were all small businesses. I didn't know if that would clash with the fact that I'm trying to move up in the enterprise world. And it was my own shop. Not like someone hired me as a consultant.
I've been involved with hiring before and the ones doing hiring generally did look at Mom and Pop's IT consultancy as a negative. I have seen ALOT of resume's that use a consultancy to fill gaps or to make them look more experienced.
There is no easy way to tell if the person just filed paperwork for LLC or if they actually had customers. Most of the time they didn't even have websites or if they did they were just so poor they were obviously dated and never updated.
It's tough because actual consultancy experience is very valuable, but I have seen consultancies put on resumes and faked time and time again.
This is kind of along the lines of what I was thinking.
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@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@irj said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@stacksofplates said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
@scottalanmiller said in Jump on the resume bandwagon:
Nothing before 2015?
There is, just wasn't sure if it's worth pushing it out to two pages for.
WHat kind of stuff is it?
My consulting business that I did for a while ( 5 years) and some L3 support for a cable company that I did along side it.
Didn't think it really fit in with the rest.
That's a lot of important content. The current one page makes it look like you have two TOTAL years of experience.
Ok I'll include it. I wasn't sure if the consulting would turn people off or not.
Why would consulting be a turn off? Nearly my entire career is consulting.
Just the fact that they were all small businesses. I didn't know if that would clash with the fact that I'm trying to move up in the enterprise world. And it was my own shop. Not like someone hired me as a consultant.
I've been involved with hiring before and the ones doing hiring generally did look at Mom and Pop's IT consultancy as a negative. I have seen ALOT of resume's that use a consultancy to fill gaps or to make them look more experienced.
There is no easy way to tell if the person just filed paperwork for LLC or if they actually had customers. Most of the time they didn't even have websites or if they did they were just so poor they were obviously dated and never updated.
It's tough because actual consultancy experience is very valuable, but I have seen consultancies put on resumes and faked time and time again.
This is kind of along the lines of what I was thinking.
You must have been involved in hiring at some point. It's amazing how many people have consultancy on their resume. I think pretty much everyone on ML has done a consulting at some point. Only a few make a real go out of it.
