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    When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Where is the list of "approved" job titles?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

        Where is the list of "approved" job titles?

        http://www.smbitjournal.com/2017/01/standard-areas-discipline-within/

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          So according to that, the term Administrator should never appear in a job title?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

            So according to that, the term Administrator should never appear in a job title?

            All IT disciplines come in Admin or Engineer. That's how you know HOW the discipline is applied.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              At "low levels" and / or with heavy user interaction we tend to just call people techs instead of admins, but tech is really an admin role.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Example: Helpdesk Tech is really End User Administrator.

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                • wirestyle22W
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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22
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                    "Systems. Shortened from “operating systems.” Systems roles are focused on the operating systems, normally of servers (but not necessarily in all cases.) This is the most broadly needed specialized IT role. Within systems, specializations tend to be such as Windows, RHEL, Suse, Ubuntu, AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, FreeBSD, Mac OSX and so forth. High level specializations such as UNIX are common with a single person or department servicing any system that falls under that umbrella, or larger organizations might split AIX, Solaris, RHEL and FreeBSD into four discrete teams to allow for a tight focus on skills, tools and knowledge. Systems specialists provide the application platform on which computer programs (which would also include databases) will run. Desktop support is generally seen as being a sub-discipline of systems, and one that often intersects pragmatically with end user and helpdesk roles."

                    So what would I be if I administrated both Windows and Linux systems?

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                      @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                      So according to that, the term Administrator should never appear in a job title?

                      All IT disciplines come in Admin or Engineer. That's how you know HOW the discipline is applied.

                      This establishes that I am at least an administrator. The question then is of what?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                        @wirestyle22 said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                        So what would I be if I administrated both Windows and Linux systems?

                        The OS doesn't change anything unless you are specifying something. So while doing this task, you are working as a generic system admin.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                          @wirestyle22 said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                          @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                          @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                          So according to that, the term Administrator should never appear in a job title?

                          All IT disciplines come in Admin or Engineer. That's how you know HOW the discipline is applied.

                          This establishes that I am at least an administrator. The question then is of what?

                          IT. Just IT in general.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                            @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                            Where is the list of "approved" job titles?

                            http://www.smbitjournal.com/2017/01/standard-areas-discipline-within/

                            I would like to see an NIST or other non Scott list that the industry references.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                              @wirestyle22 said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                              @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                              @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                              So according to that, the term Administrator should never appear in a job title?

                              All IT disciplines come in Admin or Engineer. That's how you know HOW the discipline is applied.

                              This establishes that I am at least an administrator. The question then is of what?

                              IT. Just IT in general.

                              LOL - that's where I landed myself several years ago Just
                              IT Admin.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                All SMBs have the same role....

                                SMB workers, with only the rarest exception, are only Generalists and only Admins. There is no engineering roles in SMB, there are no specialists roles in SMB.

                                SMBs sometimes do engineering (but not often) and it is normally dramatically under 1% of total time. But most SMBs outsource this small amount of engineering to sales people at vendors.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22
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                                  If this conversation were about how to go on a date, this would be your advice:

                                  Girl: So tell me about yourself
                                  Me: I am a human male

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                    @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                    So according to that, the term Administrator should never appear in a job title?

                                    All IT disciplines come in Admin or Engineer. That's how you know HOW the discipline is applied.

                                    This establishes that I am at least an administrator. The question then is of what?

                                    IT. Just IT in general.

                                    LOL - that's where I landed myself several years ago Just
                                    IT Admin.

                                    If you are in the SMB, that's what you do. You can play with things like "IT Generalist", "Generalist Admin", "IT Guy" or whatever, but the basics are always the same.... IT Generalist doing Admin stuff.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                      @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                      @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                      So according to that, the term Administrator should never appear in a job title?

                                      All IT disciplines come in Admin or Engineer. That's how you know HOW the discipline is applied.

                                      This establishes that I am at least an administrator. The question then is of what?

                                      IT. Just IT in general.

                                      LOL - that's where I landed myself several years ago Just
                                      IT Admin.

                                      If you are in the SMB, that's what you do. You can play with things like "IT Generalist", "Generalist Admin", "IT Guy" or whatever, but the basics are always the same.... IT Generalist doing Admin stuff.

                                      Technical Human

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                                      • GreyG
                                        Grey @Dashrender
                                        last edited by Grey

                                        @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                        Where is the list of "approved" job titles?

                                        https://www.onetonline.org/

                                        Use the advanced tools and search by skills, title or anything else.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Grey
                                          last edited by

                                          @Grey said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                          @Dashrender said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                          Where is the list of "approved" job titles?

                                          https://www.onetonline.org/

                                          Use the advanced tools and search by skills, title or anything else.

                                          Definitely not an IT job: Informatics Nurse Specialists

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                            If this conversation were about how to go on a date, this would be your advice:

                                            Girl: So tell me about yourself
                                            Me: I am a human male

                                            @wirestyle22 said in When Is It Okay to Say You Are a System Administrator:

                                            If this conversation were about how to go on a date, this would be your advice:

                                            Girl: So tell me about yourself
                                            Me: I am a human male

                                            I work in IT....

                                            You aren't trying to score a job with her (maybe something else 🙂 ). If she is into IT, she will ask more details. If not, she wont ask and likely wont care.

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