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    Choosing a Linux Distro for Business

    Water Closet
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    • NerdyDadN
      NerdyDad @coliver
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      @coliver I already see some differences between distros, such as apt vs yum/dnf

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @NerdyDad
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        @NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

        How easily transferable are the skills between distributions?

        If I go from CentOS to RHEL or Fedora shouldn't be much of a jump at all. But CentOS/RHEL/Fedora to Debian-derived is what I am asking about.

        Learn RedHat, even if you will use Fedora. That's what the employers will look for unless they are smart like SAM.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @NerdyDad
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          @NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

          @coliver I already see some differences between distros, such as apt vs yum/dnf

          Sure, but they are similar package management applications.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce
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            But no it's not that different. Different ways of managing packages and apps, different repos... but it's all the same fruit.

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            • NerdyDadN
              NerdyDad @coliver
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              @coliver I am say bathroom while somebody in UK will call it a "loo". Does the same thing, just with different names.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @NerdyDad
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                @NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                @coliver I am say bathroom while somebody in UK will call it a "loo". Does the same thing, just with different names.

                That's a decent comparison... but I would be careful there because you could get into issues with how both of these tools work. They are two tools that do very similar things but they aren't the same tool.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                  @NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                  How easily transferable are the skills between distributions?

                  If I go from CentOS to RHEL or Fedora shouldn't be much of a jump at all. But CentOS/RHEL/Fedora to Debian-derived is what I am asking about.

                  Moderate to high. RHEL is just an older copy of Fedora (technically a mix of a few older versions.) So that is just different points in time.

                  Ubuntu isn't just different packaging, but a relatively different thought process. A lot of stuff is the same (Bash is Bash, wget is wget) but a lot of tools, standards and expectations change.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @momurda
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                    @momurda said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                    Centos seems to be the goto ina work environment.
                    However debian has so much damn software available compared to all other distros, at home it is what i use.

                    You feel it has more than Suse and Fedora? Maybe it does, but boy do they have a lot. That was Suse's claim to fame, over 20,000 end user apps in the early 2000s.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                      @momurda said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                      Centos seems to be the goto ina work environment.
                      However debian has so much damn software available compared to all other distros, at home it is what i use.

                      You feel it has more than Suse and Fedora? Maybe it does, but boy do they have a lot. That was Suse's claim to fame, over 20,000 end user apps in the early 2000s.

                      Who needs 20,000 apps for their servers?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                        @Tim_G said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                        @NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                        @coliver I am say bathroom while somebody in UK will call it a "loo". Does the same thing, just with different names.

                        European toilets often actually do different things!

                        And the water doesn't sit 2 inches under you... they are much deeper!

                        Deeper in Sweden maybe. Check out Austria, SO shallow. it's creepy. A big dump in Austria and there isn't anywhere for it to go and you start rising off of the seat!

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                          @Tim_G said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                          @NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                          @coliver I am say bathroom while somebody in UK will call it a "loo". Does the same thing, just with different names.

                          European toilets often actually do different things!

                          And the water doesn't sit 2 inches under you... they are much deeper!

                          Shallow Austrian toilets...

                          http://air.news.gr/cov/le/lekani_2015_3_6_9_29_38_b2.jpg

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                          • QuixoticJeremyQ
                            QuixoticJeremy @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller Alright good point, I suppose amused would be a better word.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                              Yes, that is 1/4" of water, just inches below your bum.

                              That would be annoying! You'd have to get up or stand on the seat to "clean up".

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                @Tim_G said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                                Yes, that is 1/4" of water, just inches below your bum.

                                That would be annoying! You'd have to get up or stand on the seat to "clean up".

                                Yup, it's weird.

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                                • momurdaM
                                  momurda @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller debian probably has more packages than both Fedora and openSUSE put together. You can check this yourself if you want.
                                  I think there are currently over 24k packages for debian.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @momurda
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                                    @momurda said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                                    @scottalanmiller debian probably has more packages than both Fedora and openSUSE put together. You can check this yourself if you want.
                                    I think there are currently over 24k packages for debian.

                                    24K seems low, considering Suse was 20K decades ago and Fedora was 25K five years ago. I think Debian is more like 40K today.

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                                    • momurdaM
                                      momurda @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller It is 68580 packages as of today.
                                      https://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages?format=txt.gz i pasted this list in Excel and scrolled to the bottom.
                                      I still need to try 0ad. It has been the first list in synaptic for a long time ive never installed it.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @momurda
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                                        @momurda said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                                        @scottalanmiller It is 68580 packages as of today.
                                        https://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages?format=txt.gz i pasted this list in Excel and scrolled to the bottom.
                                        I still need to try 0ad. It has been the first list in synaptic for a long time ive never installed it.

                                        Well my Korora is 56,407 then. Normally that's not how packages are counted, though. By those standards, Suse was in numbers like this in 2000 as well. Debian is good, but nothing special here.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          At some point, though, the number of packages really isn't useful. Sure, five or six good email clients, that's great to have variety. But once you have one hundred email clients, it just makes finding a good one harder.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:

                                            At some point, though, the number of packages really isn't useful. Sure, five or six good email clients, that's great to have variety. But once you have one hundred email clients, it just makes finding a good one harder.

                                            Like trying to find a weather app/calculator app in the Apple Store.

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