Choosing a Linux Distro for Business
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@coliver I am say bathroom while somebody in UK will call it a "loo". Does the same thing, just with different names.
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@NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@coliver I am say bathroom while somebody in UK will call it a "loo". Does the same thing, just with different names.
That's a decent comparison... but I would be careful there because you could get into issues with how both of these tools work. They are two tools that do very similar things but they aren't the same tool.
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@NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
How easily transferable are the skills between distributions?
If I go from CentOS to RHEL or Fedora shouldn't be much of a jump at all. But CentOS/RHEL/Fedora to Debian-derived is what I am asking about.
Moderate to high. RHEL is just an older copy of Fedora (technically a mix of a few older versions.) So that is just different points in time.
Ubuntu isn't just different packaging, but a relatively different thought process. A lot of stuff is the same (Bash is Bash, wget is wget) but a lot of tools, standards and expectations change.
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@momurda said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
Centos seems to be the goto ina work environment.
However debian has so much damn software available compared to all other distros, at home it is what i use.You feel it has more than Suse and Fedora? Maybe it does, but boy do they have a lot. That was Suse's claim to fame, over 20,000 end user apps in the early 2000s.
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@scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@momurda said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
Centos seems to be the goto ina work environment.
However debian has so much damn software available compared to all other distros, at home it is what i use.You feel it has more than Suse and Fedora? Maybe it does, but boy do they have a lot. That was Suse's claim to fame, over 20,000 end user apps in the early 2000s.
Who needs 20,000 apps for their servers?
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@Tim_G said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@coliver I am say bathroom while somebody in UK will call it a "loo". Does the same thing, just with different names.
European toilets often actually do different things!
And the water doesn't sit 2 inches under you... they are much deeper!
Deeper in Sweden maybe. Check out Austria, SO shallow. it's creepy. A big dump in Austria and there isn't anywhere for it to go and you start rising off of the seat!
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@Tim_G said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@NerdyDad said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@coliver I am say bathroom while somebody in UK will call it a "loo". Does the same thing, just with different names.
European toilets often actually do different things!
And the water doesn't sit 2 inches under you... they are much deeper!
Shallow Austrian toilets...
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@scottalanmiller Alright good point, I suppose amused would be a better word.
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@scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
Yes, that is 1/4" of water, just inches below your bum.
That would be annoying! You'd have to get up or stand on the seat to "clean up".
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@Tim_G said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
Yes, that is 1/4" of water, just inches below your bum.
That would be annoying! You'd have to get up or stand on the seat to "clean up".
Yup, it's weird.
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@scottalanmiller debian probably has more packages than both Fedora and openSUSE put together. You can check this yourself if you want.
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@momurda said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@scottalanmiller debian probably has more packages than both Fedora and openSUSE put together. You can check this yourself if you want.
I think there are currently over 24k packages for debian.24K seems low, considering Suse was 20K decades ago and Fedora was 25K five years ago. I think Debian is more like 40K today.
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@scottalanmiller It is 68580 packages as of today.
https://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages?format=txt.gz i pasted this list in Excel and scrolled to the bottom.
I still need to try 0ad. It has been the first list in synaptic for a long time ive never installed it. -
@momurda said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
@scottalanmiller It is 68580 packages as of today.
https://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages?format=txt.gz i pasted this list in Excel and scrolled to the bottom.
I still need to try 0ad. It has been the first list in synaptic for a long time ive never installed it.Well my Korora is 56,407 then. Normally that's not how packages are counted, though. By those standards, Suse was in numbers like this in 2000 as well. Debian is good, but nothing special here.
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At some point, though, the number of packages really isn't useful. Sure, five or six good email clients, that's great to have variety. But once you have one hundred email clients, it just makes finding a good one harder.
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@scottalanmiller said in Choosing a Linux Distro for Business:
At some point, though, the number of packages really isn't useful. Sure, five or six good email clients, that's great to have variety. But once you have one hundred email clients, it just makes finding a good one harder.
Like trying to find a weather app/calculator app in the Apple Store.
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in my experience Debian derivatives have always had the most rich package set out there. anyway corporates do not need any package but well known packages.
US is Red Hat, Europe is as split between Red Hat and SLES, but even here people is asking for Red Hat certification not SLES...
more dynamic versions of the distros are fedora and opensuse. they are just ahead of their respective corporate versions and stay more uptodate but less supported (no paid support). so learning fedora is learning red hat. same fits with opensuse <- >SLES.
just mind that when a new tech is introduced in fedora/opensuse, corporates can still lag and use previous stuff. Well, this is actually more true for red hat/fedora than for opensuse/SLES, in fact the latter has aligned their releases (more or less).
debian is a different world: no corporate support behind it, so no gain in corporate envs. Ubuntu is a derivative which tries to provide corporate support, but, honestly, it is not their stronger point at all.
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talking about number of packages, this has always been my reference:
http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/if a distro has it packaged it is quite sure they have anything
both debian and suse have it.
