Need a recommendation for a storage target for Veeam Backup Essentials
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I am looking for a solid device to use for a target for my Veeam backups at one client.
They have two new Dell R620 servers running Hyper-V. There is only about 2TB max on the local drives, currently only a fraction in use.
One server has 4 NICs with only 1 used, the other server has 2 NIC with both used. I can add another card for more NICs if I want to make a private network for the backup traffic, but obviously not required.- What storage device would you all recommend?
- Where should I install Veeam?
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I store my Veeam backup images on a NAS where I have about 7TB of storage and then replicate that NAS to another identical NAS.
It's a Synology DS 1513+, each NAS has 4 NICs bonded/teamed together. I'm yet to have an issue, these NAS's sit in places where they get close to their maximum operating temperature during summer.I think the choice of host comes down to how you are going to operate the backup schedule.
Are you only doing one or two backups at once? If so, I don't think it really matters.
Are you running several backups at once? or are you going to be using a backup proxy? Then I'd suggest the one with the most NIC's. -
@nadnerB You install Veeam itself on the Synology?
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I have a small business running Veeam from a workstation, and the backup appliances are 5 NAS devices. The client didn't want to do off-site through any type of replication (they don't like the internet). They disconnect a NAS daily and take it off-site.
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@JaredBusch said:
@nadnerB You install Veeam itself on the Synology?
Nope, the NAS is just a CIFS/NFS network target
Veeam server --> \ <NAS IP><backup folder>
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@Dashrender said:
(they don't like the internet)
Sounds like a religious group I used to work for (before my IT days)
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@nadnerB Your response did not really clear up my question.
What I want to know is where is Veeam installed. How are people using it. Because it cannot reliably do its job if it is in a VM on the server that craps out.
Does everyone run it on some random box? If so what kind of specs? Does the backup traffic actually pass through the box running the Veeam software? If so, then it needs to have as much network as the backup target and source.
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Instead of installing Veeam on a separate instance, what about building a SAM-SD NAS from something like a Dell R510 and installing Veram there and backing up to the local storage?
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@JaredBusch said:
@nadnerB Your response did not really clear up my question.
What I want to know is where is Veeam installed. How are people using it. Because it cannot reliably do its job if it is in a VM on the server that craps out.
Does everyone run it on some random box? If so what kind of specs? Does the backup traffic actually pass through the box running the Veeam software? If so, then it needs to have as much network as the backup target and source.
Right. My apologies.
I run it on a separate VM inside my vSphere environment.
I don't see it as an issue if it goes toes up as I have regular backups of the veeam config also going to NAS boxes in two separate buildings.So in a nut shell... vSphere --> ESXi host --> Veeam Server
My Specs:
CPU: 2 Sockets with 2 Cores (4 in total)
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 60GB (thin provisioned)
OS: Server 2012 R2The traffic passes through the backup proxy. This can be a separate server OR the same server.
I have opted for the all-in-one approach.
Here is my thread regarding my initial Veeam setup queries: http://mangolassi.it/topic/1221/veeam-installation/2@JaredBusch said:
What I want to know is where is Veeam installed. How are people using it. Because it cannot reliably do its job if it is in a VM on the server that craps out.
Respectfully, Isn't the same true for a bare-metal installation?
Hopefully, I've been more helpful this time
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Dashrender said:
(they don't like the internet).
So why do they have a network?
Required evil.
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I have an HP Proliant DL180 G6 server with 4 x 1TB midline drives, giving me 2TB usable storage. Windows 2008 is installed on it (bare metal) and it only runs Veeam. It backups our VMs over the normal network once a night, I haven't bothered separating out the traffic.
I do one full backup once a week and incrementals thereafter. The full backup is then copied on to 2TB external drives, which I rotate. I keep the latest backed up external drive at home. Incrementals are backed up to the cloud. The full backup file is about 1TB, and the incrementals are about 9GB.
So in a complete disaster, where everything has gone including the Veeam server, I can restore the weekly backup using the external drive and then restore the incrementals from the cloud. So I can always recover to the previous night.
I wouldn't have a strong issue with running Veeam as a VM, but it adds an extra layer of hassle if it craps out and I don't need that.
I installed a separate USB 3.0 card in the server, which makes backing up to an external drive pretty quick. It takes about 4 hours to do 1TB.
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Install Veeam on a separate physical server. During the backup window Veeam consumes a lot of resources and can became a "bad neighbor" if it's installed as a VM, also it really doesn't make much sense living within the enviroment it wants to protect.
You can keep the backups on the Veeam server drives, and if possible make a copy of the backups to a remote NAS, there are nice and affordable NAS boxes available.
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I'm about to have to setup some sort of solution (depending on how well GFI did with their VM Backup offering this week) But my intent was to put a GL360 or something similar running 6 500 GB drives, server 2008 on the metal, oh but i dunno. we will see how i feel
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Why not Linux? Free and no need to run several versions behind.
