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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

      And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

      I was talking about Chocolately 😉

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

        ZT announced a new community thing nine hours ago.

        Where?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

          @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

          ZT announced a new community thing nine hours ago.

          Where?

          They announced on the Twitter feed which is doing a few posts per day. It's available in a new tab on the my.zerotier.com site.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

            @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

            And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

            I was talking about Chocolately 😉

            Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

              @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

              @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

              And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

              I was talking about Chocolately 😉

              Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

              They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                  @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                  @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                  And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                  I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                  Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                  They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                  WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                  how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                    @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                    @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                    @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                    And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                    I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                    Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                    They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                    WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                    how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                    Putty or Bitvise spring to mind. Both of those are applicaitons that provide SSH.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                      @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                      @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                      @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                      @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                      And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                      I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                      Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                      They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                      WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                      how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                      Putty or Bitvise spring to mind. Both of those are applicaitons that provide SSH.

                      Those have nothing to do with MS though, they are third party solutions. And sure, we use Chocolately to deploy them.. but Scott said that MS is pushing for the use of Chocolately to deploy SSH - so I guess I would like to read their pushing of that use, and what is the actual use for? i.e. what application?

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                        @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                        @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                        @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                        @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                        @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                        And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                        I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                        Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                        They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                        WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                        how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                        Putty or Bitvise spring to mind. Both of those are applicaitons that provide SSH.

                        Those have nothing to do with MS though, they are third party solutions. And sure, we use Chocolately to deploy them.. but Scott said that MS is pushing for the use of Chocolately to deploy SSH - so I guess I would like to read their pushing of that use, and what is the actual use for? i.e. what application?

                        My point was SSH does not require the Linux subsystem.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                          @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                          @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                          @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                          @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                          @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                          @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                          And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                          I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                          Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                          They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                          WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                          how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                          Putty or Bitvise spring to mind. Both of those are applicaitons that provide SSH.

                          Those have nothing to do with MS though, they are third party solutions. And sure, we use Chocolately to deploy them.. but Scott said that MS is pushing for the use of Chocolately to deploy SSH - so I guess I would like to read their pushing of that use, and what is the actual use for? i.e. what application?

                          My point was SSH does not require the Linux subsystem.

                          My question is - what is MS pushing the use of Chocolately for? Scott said it was for SSH - but how, or more correctly - for what application to be installed?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                            @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                            @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                            @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                            And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                            I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                            Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                            They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                            WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                            how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                            Where have you been? We've been talking about this a lot for a while. It's just a service on Windows, provided by MS. Microsoft made a fairly big deal about this. It's the OpenSSH system from OpenBSD, same one you know and love on every major Linux distro. Microsoft themselves ported the OpenSSH system to Windows (so it's a first class, primary vendor supported system) and its official packaging is NuGet and its official distribution primary channel is Chocolatey. There are other ways to get it, like direct from GitHub, but Chocolatey is the team's recommended way.

                            It's just a Windows "role" that you get through Chocolatey instead of the role manager. 100% Microsoft and no relationship to any subsystems.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                              @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                              @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                              @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                              @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                              And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                              I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                              Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                              They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                              WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                              how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                              Where have you been? We've been talking about this a lot for a while. It's just a service on Windows, provided by MS. Microsoft made a fairly big deal about this. It's the OpenSSH system from OpenBSD, same one you know and love on every major Linux distro. Microsoft themselves ported the OpenSSH system to Windows (so it's a first class, primary vendor supported system) and its official packaging is NuGet and its official distribution primary channel is Chocolatey. There are other ways to get it, like direct from GitHub, but Chocolatey is the team's recommended way.

                              It's just a Windows "role" that you get through Chocolatey instead of the role manager. 100% Microsoft and no relationship to any subsystems.

                              This must be what Scott is talking about.

                              https://i.imgur.com/Np267Nf.png

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                                I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                                Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                                They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                                WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                                how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                                Putty or Bitvise spring to mind. Both of those are applicaitons that provide SSH.

                                Those have nothing to do with MS though, they are third party solutions. And sure, we use Chocolately to deploy them.. but Scott said that MS is pushing for the use of Chocolately to deploy SSH - so I guess I would like to read their pushing of that use, and what is the actual use for? i.e. what application?

                                The application is OpenSSH. That's the biggest one that I know of that MS themselves are pushing through that channel as their preferred approach. MS' embrace of NuGet and Chocolatey is on the recent side.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH/wiki/Install-Win32-OpenSSH

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                    @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                    @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                    @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                    @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                    And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                                    I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                                    Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                                    They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                                    WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                                    how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                                    Putty or Bitvise spring to mind. Both of those are applicaitons that provide SSH.

                                    Those have nothing to do with MS though, they are third party solutions. And sure, we use Chocolately to deploy them.. but Scott said that MS is pushing for the use of Chocolately to deploy SSH - so I guess I would like to read their pushing of that use, and what is the actual use for? i.e. what application?

                                    The application is OpenSSH. That's the biggest one that I know of that MS themselves are pushing through that channel as their preferred approach. MS' embrace of NuGet and Chocolatey is on the recent side.

                                    They have been pushing NuGet since Visual Studio 2013

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                      @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                      And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                                      I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                                      Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                                      They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                                      No, SSH. SSH has nothing to do with Linux. SSH is a protocol. Nothing for Windows is available through the Linux subsystem. That's just a VM for Linux services.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                        And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                                        I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                                        Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                                        They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                                        WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                                        how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                                        Putty or Bitvise spring to mind. Both of those are applicaitons that provide SSH.

                                        Those have nothing to do with MS though, they are third party solutions. And sure, we use Chocolately to deploy them.. but Scott said that MS is pushing for the use of Chocolately to deploy SSH - so I guess I would like to read their pushing of that use, and what is the actual use for? i.e. what application?

                                        The application is OpenSSH. That's the biggest one that I know of that MS themselves are pushing through that channel as their preferred approach. MS' embrace of NuGet and Chocolatey is on the recent side.

                                        They have been pushing NuGet since Visual Studio 2013

                                        NuGet sans Chocolatey, yes. But they added the next layer up more recently.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                          @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                          @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                          @Dashrender said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                          And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                                          I was talking about Chocolately 😉

                                          Me too. Chocolatey is HOW MS officially deploys that feature.

                                          They deploy the Linux subsystem via Chocolately?

                                          WTF are you talking about? He said SSH.

                                          how do you get SSH on windows if not through the Linux Subsystem?

                                          Where have you been? We've been talking about this a lot for a while. It's just a service on Windows, provided by MS. Microsoft made a fairly big deal about this. It's the OpenSSH system from OpenBSD, same one you know and love on every major Linux distro. Microsoft themselves ported the OpenSSH system to Windows (so it's a first class, primary vendor supported system) and its official packaging is NuGet and its official distribution primary channel is Chocolatey. There are other ways to get it, like direct from GitHub, but Chocolatey is the team's recommended way.

                                          It's just a Windows "role" that you get through Chocolatey instead of the role manager. 100% Microsoft and no relationship to any subsystems.

                                          This must be what Scott is talking about.

                                          https://i.imgur.com/Np267Nf.png

                                          Yes

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                                          • Deleted74295D
                                            Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by Deleted74295

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Is ZeroTier failing:

                                            And me. Basically all people using SSH on Windows as that's how MS delivers that feature of the OS.

                                            Could you explain that? Really bold statement.

                                            With powershell, MSIs, group policies, who cares about this? I find a load of articles from 2014 "look exciting" on a few sites but...I don't see anyone jumping up and down with excitement.

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