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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Did I say that it had no USB or that you NEEDED no USB?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

        @scottalanmiller said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

        @DustinB3403 said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

        @dafyre said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

        I have remote access to 30 servers. I also have physical access to those same 30 servers when crap really hits the fan. The oldest of those servers is ~6 - 8 years, and the newest is just a year or two old.

        All of them have USB ports, and they are enabled. (our KVMs are USB only).

        That has been how all of the systems I've worked on as well, they have USB for those "Oh $#i+" moments.

        OOB does the same thing, and many enterprise boxes don't even have KVM options but serial ports, instead.

        Not a single standard enterprise server on the market has no USB. If you want to get into specialized hardware, then fine, but that is also not the SMB, so be specific.

        Sparc systems never had it. If they have them now, that's new. We have stacks of servers that are not all that old and definitely have no USB (or PS2 or any other kind of KVM IO ports.)

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          HP Integrity traditionally had no KVM IO ports either.

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          • scottalanmillerS
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            From what I can tell from pics, some more recent RISC servers have added USB ports. I would guess that they are for firmware updates since there is normally no way to attach a monitor to them, having a keyboard or mouse would be pointless. Access traditionally has always been via serial cables, same as switches and routers.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

              @scottalanmiller said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

              @DustinB3403 said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

              @dafyre said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

              I have remote access to 30 servers. I also have physical access to those same 30 servers when crap really hits the fan. The oldest of those servers is ~6 - 8 years, and the newest is just a year or two old.

              All of them have USB ports, and they are enabled. (our KVMs are USB only).

              That has been how all of the systems I've worked on as well, they have USB for those "Oh $#i+" moments.

              OOB does the same thing, and many enterprise boxes don't even have KVM options but serial ports, instead.

              Not a single standard enterprise server on the market has no USB.

              I said KVM options, not that there was no USB.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                Did I say that it had no USB or that you NEEDED no USB?

                Your implication because of the context of the thread was no KVM on top of no USB.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                  Did I say that it had no USB or that you NEEDED no USB?

                  Your implication because of the context of the thread was no KVM on top of no USB.

                  0_1493735746448_upload-cba527b7-ef37-40b5-9e2d-bace7cfa4156

                  It might have felt that way, but I was making no such implication. Enterprise systems often don't have KVM options, at all, even though they have USB. We were talking about remote access via USB, so my statement was only in that context and only mentioned the KVM portion, never the USB. I'm not sure why it seemed like I was talking about USB ports in the general sense.

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                  • C
                    Carnival Boy
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                    Well, I'm glad that's been cleared up. You can probably delete the thread now 🙂

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                      @Carnival-Boy said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                      Well, I'm glad that's been cleared up. You can probably delete the thread now 🙂

                      I don't even know what the original thread was!

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                        @Carnival-Boy said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                        Well, I'm glad that's been cleared up. You can probably delete the thread now 🙂

                        I don't even know what the original thread was!

                        And that is why you have no concept of what you posted being completely wrong for the context of the thread.

                        Honestly, it is pretty straight forward if you read the first post.
                        https://mangolassi.it/topic/13595/out-of-band-management-does-it-mean-no-keyboard-at-all

                        The first post also contains links back to the thread that @DustinB3403 pulled this from.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                          @Carnival-Boy said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                          Well, I'm glad that's been cleared up. You can probably delete the thread now 🙂

                          I don't even know what the original thread was!

                          And that is why you have no concept of what you posted being completely wrong for the context of the thread.

                          Honestly, it is pretty straight forward if you read the first post.
                          https://mangolassi.it/topic/13595/out-of-band-management-does-it-mean-no-keyboard-at-all

                          The first post also contains links back to the thread that @DustinB3403 pulled this from.

                          I was responding the post quoted, though.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Ah I see, the original thread was the kernel 4.11 and then comments about USB transfer stalls?

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                              @JaredBusch said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                              @Carnival-Boy said in Out of Band Management - does it mean no keyboard at all:

                              Well, I'm glad that's been cleared up. You can probably delete the thread now 🙂

                              I don't even know what the original thread was!

                              And that is why you have no concept of what you posted being completely wrong for the context of the thread.

                              Honestly, it is pretty straight forward if you read the first post.
                              https://mangolassi.it/topic/13595/out-of-band-management-does-it-mean-no-keyboard-at-all

                              The first post also contains links back to the thread that @DustinB3403 pulled this from.

                              I was responding the post quoted, though.

                              Which was in the context of the entire thread. If you want to cherry pick something, then clearly, state as much. You did not.

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