To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help
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In order to combat murders, the government started randomly shooting people.
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Can you even arrest someone who gets that stuff from the police? Ignorance is no excuse under the law. That works both ways. They can't prove that people didn't know that it was government publications.
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@scottalanmiller said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
Can you even arrest someone who gets that stuff from the police? Ignorance is no excuse under the law. That works both ways. They can't prove that people didn't know that it was government publications.
Sadly the people that fight the monsters must also make sure that they do not become the monsters.
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@scottalanmiller said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
Can you even arrest someone who gets that stuff from the police? Ignorance is no excuse under the law. That works both ways. They can't prove that people didn't know that it was government publications.
Which it is as soon as the material is seized.
Nothing different with child pornography than cocaine! Both are illegal.
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Should have been "FBI caught with their pants down"
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Which if you looked at it like this, the government began to sell child porn.
Which is synonymous with "the government sold illicit drugs"
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@DustinB3403 said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
Which if you looked at it like this, the government began to sell child porn.
Which is synonymous with "the government sold illicit drugs"
How else can you look at it?
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Sounds like "catching people" is just something added after they got busted running a child porn ring. No way this was actually done originally thinking that this would catch bad people.
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@scottalanmiller said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
@DustinB3403 said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
Which if you looked at it like this, the government began to sell child porn.
Which is synonymous with "the government sold illicit drugs"
How else can you look at it?
There isn't any other way to look at it, which is exactly my point.
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@scottalanmiller said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
@DustinB3403 said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
Which if you looked at it like this, the government began to sell child porn.
Which is synonymous with "the government sold illicit drugs"
How else can you look at it?
The government is a bunch of crooks... who is surprised by this type of behavior???
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With cocaine, they don't really give it to you. They pretend to sell it. And cocaine hurts no one. There is no victim. This is the government actually causing harm to children.
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@RojoLoco said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
@scottalanmiller said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
@DustinB3403 said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
Which if you looked at it like this, the government began to sell child porn.
Which is synonymous with "the government sold illicit drugs"
How else can you look at it?
The government is a bunch of crooks... who is surprised by this type of behavior???
We normally think of them as power hungry or out to make money, not to often as outright pædophikes. Although maybe they did this just for money and not for the fun of it. But the risks being so high, that makes no sense.
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@scottalanmiller said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
With cocaine, they don't really give it to you. They pretend to sell it. And cocaine hurts no one. There is no victim. This is the government actually causing harm to children.
But the comparison would be the FDA/ATF/Drug Enforcement seizing drugs at the border, and then turning around and selling it themselves.
It's the act of seizure and not destroying / removing access that has me upset.
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@DustinB3403 said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
@scottalanmiller said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
Can you even arrest someone who gets that stuff from the police? Ignorance is no excuse under the law. That works both ways. They can't prove that people didn't know that it was government publications.
Which it is as soon as the material is seized.
Nothing different with child pornography than cocaine! Both are illegal.
Tell that to the CIA...
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@DustinB3403 said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
@scottalanmiller said in To fight Tor hack prosecutions, activist groups offer up legal help:
With cocaine, they don't really give it to you. They pretend to sell it. And cocaine hurts no one. There is no victim. This is the government actually causing harm to children.
But the comparison would be the FDA/ATF/Drug Enforcement seizing drugs at the border, and then turning around and selling it themselves.
It's the act of seizure and not destroying / removing access that has me upset.
This is what the CIA did in the 80's. They literally seized drugs from Mexican and Central American cartels and then sold it in US inner cities lower then what their competitors could. It funded a lot of the operations that the government couldn't/wouldn't fund.
There is speculation that the current opiate epidemic may be the result of the same type of program.
