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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce
      last edited by Obsolesce

      It's free, we'd just pay for drive kits, cables, rails, and the HBA for the server it's going to.... it's all relatively cheap in comparison to purchasing a newer 30TB raw storage DAS device.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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        @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

        It's free, we'd just pay for drive kits, cables, rails, and the HBA for the server it's going to.... it's all relatively cheap in comparison to purchasing a newer 30TB raw storage DAS device.

        Also not nearly as good. Would it be cheaper than buying a Synology or building a SAM-SD?

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

          @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

          It's free, we'd just pay for drive kits, cables, rails, and the HBA for the server it's going to.... it's all relatively cheap in comparison to purchasing a newer 30TB raw storage DAS device.

          Also not nearly as good. Would it be cheaper than buying a Synology or building a SAM-SD?

          I doubt we could get a Synology or a SAM-SD set up for only the cost of the hard drives. This is pretty much what we're getting now... a DAS for the cost of the hard drives. The cables and HBA is almost nothing.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce
            last edited by Obsolesce

            Oh, we need block level access. So it has to be DAS. Well, iSCSI could work, but I don't want to go that route for this specific setup.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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              @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

              Oh, we need block level access. So it has to be DAS. Well, iSCSI could work, but I don't want to go that route for this specific setup.

              Synology definitely does block. So does SAM-SD. And SAM-SD can obviously do FC. Any reason you are ruling out iSCSI but not ruling out "running on laughable hardware"?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                @scottalanmiller said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                It's free, we'd just pay for drive kits, cables, rails, and the HBA for the server it's going to.... it's all relatively cheap in comparison to purchasing a newer 30TB raw storage DAS device.

                Also not nearly as good. Would it be cheaper than buying a Synology or building a SAM-SD?

                I doubt we could get a Synology or a SAM-SD set up for only the cost of the hard drives. This is pretty much what we're getting now... a DAS for the cost of the hard drives. The cables and HBA is almost nothing.

                You'd be surprised. If they cost is anywhere close, you don't want old junk hardware. You'd want "new and supported." If the cost is a big difference, sure the MD would make sense. But I'd price it out. That stuff adds up quickly.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                  @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                  Oh, we need block level access. So it has to be DAS. Well, iSCSI could work, but I don't want to go that route for this specific setup.

                  Synology definitely does block. So does SAM-SD. And SAM-SD can obviously do FC. Any reason you are ruling out iSCSI but not ruling out "running on laughable hardware"?

                  I'm wanting to test something like this (except not clustered):

                  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn891438(v=sc.12).aspx#Overview

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                    @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                    Oh, we need block level access. So it has to be DAS. Well, iSCSI could work, but I don't want to go that route for this specific setup.

                    Synology definitely does block. So does SAM-SD. And SAM-SD can obviously do FC. Any reason you are ruling out iSCSI but not ruling out "running on laughable hardware"?

                    I'm wanting to test something like this (except not clustered):

                    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn891438(v=sc.12).aspx#Overview

                    Do you not have a VM host you could just add local storage to test?

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                      @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                      @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                      Oh, we need block level access. So it has to be DAS. Well, iSCSI could work, but I don't want to go that route for this specific setup.

                      Synology definitely does block. So does SAM-SD. And SAM-SD can obviously do FC. Any reason you are ruling out iSCSI but not ruling out "running on laughable hardware"?

                      I'm wanting to test something like this (except not clustered):

                      https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn891438(v=sc.12).aspx#Overview

                      Do you not have a VM host you could just add local storage to test?

                      You need the full version of Windows Server to install the Data Deduplicaiton feature. I was wanting to test everything on a test server running Hyper-V Server 2016.

                      I do have a Datacenter host that I am working on a schedule to upgrade from Windows Server 2012 R2 Datacenter to Windows Server 2016 Datacenter. It's a big move, so it won't happen reasonably soon.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato
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                        Even though the MD1000 wouldn't be a bad choice for backups I would recommend Synology as well, you probably will get more support, more space and expansion will give you flexibility. That being said I have PowerEdge 2900 runnig Freenas and they run very well.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                          @travisdh1 said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                          @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                          @Tim_G said in Opinions on MD1000 for backup location:

                          Oh, we need block level access. So it has to be DAS. Well, iSCSI could work, but I don't want to go that route for this specific setup.

                          Synology definitely does block. So does SAM-SD. And SAM-SD can obviously do FC. Any reason you are ruling out iSCSI but not ruling out "running on laughable hardware"?

                          I'm wanting to test something like this (except not clustered):

                          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn891438(v=sc.12).aspx#Overview

                          Do you not have a VM host you could just add local storage to test?

                          You need the full version of Windows Server to install the Data Deduplicaiton feature. I was wanting to test everything on a test server running Hyper-V Server 2016.

                          I do have a Datacenter host that I am working on a schedule to upgrade from Windows Server 2012 R2 Datacenter to Windows Server 2016 Datacenter. It's a big move, so it won't happen reasonably soon.

                          You know you can install anything you want for 6 months as a trial.
                          Microsoft has offered this for pretty much ever.

                          https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016

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