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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in New Dell gaming laptop:

      My first question anytime this is brought up: Is it absolutely essential that it's a laptop?

      Portability is a big thing for me (even though I don't move much). But being able to pick up and go to a family members for a week (and still game) is a big boost.

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      • Reid CooperR
        Reid Cooper @Nic
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        @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

        This article has more details:
        http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

        GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

        With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

        You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in New Dell gaming laptop:

          @wirestyle22 said in New Dell gaming laptop:

          My first question anytime this is brought up: Is it absolutely essential that it's a laptop?

          Portability is a big thing for me (even though I don't move much). But being able to pick up and go to a family members for a week (and still game) is a big boost.

          Yeah, in that sort of a case It's absolutely necessary. I try to stay away from laptops for gaming. Heat issues, battery problems, price/performance, etc. Portability is almost never necessary for me.

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          • NicN
            Nic @Reid Cooper
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            @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

            @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

            This article has more details:
            http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

            GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

            With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

            You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

            My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.

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            • Reid CooperR
              Reid Cooper @Nic
              last edited by

              @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

              @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

              @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

              This article has more details:
              http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

              GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

              With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

              You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

              My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.

              Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.

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              • NicN
                Nic @Reid Cooper
                last edited by

                @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                This article has more details:
                http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

                GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

                With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

                You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

                My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.

                Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.

                Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Nic
                  last edited by

                  @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                  @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                  @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                  @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                  @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                  This article has more details:
                  http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

                  GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

                  With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

                  You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

                  My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.

                  Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.

                  Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.

                  A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.

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                  • DominicaD
                    Dominica
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                    They are living between NY and TX now that they are retired, and also traveling extensively, so that's why it needs to be a laptop.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      I'd look at this instead. We've had such good luck with them.

                      https://www.amazon.com/Asus-Rog-15-6-Inch-GeForce-Windows/dp/B01LZQEZQE/

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                      • NicN
                        Nic @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                        @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                        @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                        @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                        @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                        @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                        This article has more details:
                        http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

                        GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

                        With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

                        You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

                        My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.

                        Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.

                        Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.

                        A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.

                        As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Nic
                          last edited by

                          @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                          @scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                          @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                          @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                          @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                          @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                          @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                          This article has more details:
                          http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

                          GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

                          With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

                          You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

                          My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.

                          Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.

                          Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.

                          A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.

                          As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.

                          I mean that the games actually won't run.

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                          • NicN
                            Nic @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                            @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                            @scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                            @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                            @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                            @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                            @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                            @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                            This article has more details:
                            http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

                            GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

                            With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

                            You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

                            My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.

                            Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.

                            Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.

                            A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.

                            As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.

                            I mean that the games actually won't run.

                            True, although GOG has done a good job of testing for the most part, for older games. Still there are some that just won't look good or run at larger resolutions. You could set the monitor itself to a lower resolution instead of upscaling the game though, no?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Nic
                              last edited by

                              @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                              @scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                              @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                              @scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                              @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                              @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                              @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                              @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                              @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                              This article has more details:
                              http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

                              GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

                              With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

                              You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

                              My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.

                              Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.

                              Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.

                              A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.

                              As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.

                              I mean that the games actually won't run.

                              True, although GOG has done a good job of testing for the most part, for older games. Still there are some that just won't look good or run at larger resolutions. You could set the monitor itself to a lower resolution instead of upscaling the game though, no?

                              There are entire categories of casual games that don't even function on scaled resolutions. The underlying engines won't accommodate it. Hidden object games are a big one.

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                              • NicN
                                Nic @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                @scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                @scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                @Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                @Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:

                                This article has more details:
                                http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/

                                GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.

                                With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.

                                You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.

                                My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.

                                Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.

                                Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.

                                A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.

                                As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.

                                I mean that the games actually won't run.

                                True, although GOG has done a good job of testing for the most part, for older games. Still there are some that just won't look good or run at larger resolutions. You could set the monitor itself to a lower resolution instead of upscaling the game though, no?

                                There are entire categories of casual games that don't even function on scaled resolutions. The underlying engines won't accommodate it. Hidden object games are a big one.

                                Yeah I never play those so I guess I'm missing out on that special area of troubleshooting 🙂

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