Office365 Considerations
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@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
What is in it for the partner, then?
MS perks. Sadly, not as many as there were at the onset.
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@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?
Yes, sadly it comes with that crap.
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@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
@dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
@dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?
It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.
Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?
I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.
What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."
AD does not get touched. You just run a sync tool to sync your AD to Azure AD.
Don't even talk to resellers, there is no value in it. Nothing that they tell you is about O365, it's about themselves. There is no "process" to get AD working, you just install the sync and you are done.
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@art_of_shred said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?
Yes, but last I knew regular old Skype was way better than SfB. We had nothing but trouble with it, but it was pretty early on. Things may have gotten better since we abandoned SfB.
Do you guys use the MS Teams chat-based workspace?
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@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
What is in it for the partner, then?
Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.
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@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
@art_of_shred said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?
Yes, but last I knew regular old Skype was way better than SfB. We had nothing but trouble with it, but it was pretty early on. Things may have gotten better since we abandoned SfB.
Do you guys use the MS Teams chat-based workspace?
It doesn't exist for us yet. We tend to get these products months after MS is advertising them as being on the market.
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@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
@dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
@dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?
It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.
Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?
I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.
What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."
AD does not get touched. You just run a sync tool to sync your AD to Azure AD.
Don't even talk to resellers, there is no value in it. Nothing that they tell you is about O365, it's about themselves. There is no "process" to get AD working, you just install the sync and you are done.
Wow. I'm glad I asked.
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@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
What is in it for the partner, then?
Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.
I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.
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@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
What is in it for the partner, then?
Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.
I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.
It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.
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@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
What is in it for the partner, then?
Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.
I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.
It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.
OK, then why is the partner involved?
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@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
@dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
@dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?
It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.
Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?
I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.
What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."
AD does not get touched. You just run a sync tool to sync your AD to Azure AD.
The only time AD gets touched is if you have to add a UPN Alias to match your external domain.
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@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
What is in it for the partner, then?
Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.
I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.
It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.
OK, then why is the partner involved?
Partner gets you upgraded service.
Microsoft gets their name out there more.
Customer learns of the partner.Everyone benefits.
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No different than how a Dell Partner works, for example.
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@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
What is in it for the partner, then?
Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.
I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.
It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.
OK, then why is the partner involved?
Partner gets you upgraded service.
Microsoft gets their name out there more.
Customer learns of the partner.Everyone benefits.
So ... you pay ... Microsoft? Even if you go through a partner?
And doing that gets you upgraded service. From Microsoft.
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@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
What is in it for the partner, then?
Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.
I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.
It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.
OK, then why is the partner involved?
Partner gets you upgraded service.
Microsoft gets their name out there more.
Customer learns of the partner.Everyone benefits.
So ... you pay ... Micorsoft? Even if you go through a partner?
Of course, this is a partner, not a reseller. Partner = always, Reseller = never (with O365.) If you paid the partner, they'd be a reseller.
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@BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:
And doing that gets you upgraded service. From Microsoft.
Yes. MS needs to encourage everyone to be with a partner. That's how they do it.
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Is there a way I can guarantee internal e-mail would not leave the country through O365? If can't get that part handled we'd be in violation of ITAR.
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@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
Is there a way I can guarantee internal e-mail would not leave the country through O365? If can't get that part handled we'd be in violation of ITAR.
AFAIK ITAR is not supported on O365. You should have asked that up front as that has been covered previously. And ANY questions like that can only be addressed directly to Microsoft, no reseller or partner can guarantee that for you, no matter what line they feed you. They don't have that power. Microsoft might have added ITAR support, but if they did, it is very recent.
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ITAR is the only major reason that I have heard for people not using O365. It's not for business reasons, but legal ones.
Pretty much you always run your own email for ITAR support.
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@scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:
@NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:
Is there a way I can guarantee internal e-mail would not leave the country through O365? If can't get that part handled we'd be in violation of ITAR.
AFAIK ITAR is not supported on O365. You should have asked that up front as that has been covered previously. And ANY questions like that can only be addressed directly to Microsoft, no reseller or partner can guarantee that for you, no matter what line they feed you. They don't have that power. Microsoft might have added ITAR support, but if they did, it is very recent.
I didn't mention ITAR in my post but did ask about guaranteeing e-mail would not leave the US. Then I guess we continue to keep it in house. Thanks everyone for the help.
