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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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      @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

      It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?

      Yes, sadly it comes with that crap.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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        @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

        @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

        @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

        @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

        @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

        How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?

        It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.

        Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?

        I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.

        What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."

        AD does not get touched. You just run a sync tool to sync your AD to Azure AD.

        Don't even talk to resellers, there is no value in it. Nothing that they tell you is about O365, it's about themselves. There is no "process" to get AD working, you just install the sync and you are done.

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        • NetworkNerdN
          NetworkNerd @art_of_shred
          last edited by

          @art_of_shred said in Office365 Considerations:

          @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

          It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?

          Yes, but last I knew regular old Skype was way better than SfB. We had nothing but trouble with it, but it was pretty early on. Things may have gotten better since we abandoned SfB.

          Do you guys use the MS Teams chat-based workspace?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

            What is in it for the partner, then?

            Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
              last edited by

              @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

              @art_of_shred said in Office365 Considerations:

              @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

              It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?

              Yes, but last I knew regular old Skype was way better than SfB. We had nothing but trouble with it, but it was pretty early on. Things may have gotten better since we abandoned SfB.

              Do you guys use the MS Teams chat-based workspace?

              It doesn't exist for us yet. We tend to get these products months after MS is advertising them as being on the market.

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              • NetworkNerdN
                NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?

                It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.

                Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?

                I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.

                What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."

                AD does not get touched. You just run a sync tool to sync your AD to Azure AD.

                Don't even talk to resellers, there is no value in it. Nothing that they tell you is about O365, it's about themselves. There is no "process" to get AD working, you just install the sync and you are done.

                Wow. I'm glad I asked.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                  @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                  What is in it for the partner, then?

                  Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                  I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                    @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                    What is in it for the partner, then?

                    Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                    I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                    It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                      @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                      @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                      What is in it for the partner, then?

                      Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                      I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                      It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

                      OK, then why is the partner involved?

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                      • brianlittlejohnB
                        brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                        @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                        @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                        @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                        @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                        @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                        How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?

                        It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.

                        Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?

                        I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.

                        What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."

                        AD does not get touched. You just run a sync tool to sync your AD to Azure AD.

                        The only time AD gets touched is if you have to add a UPN Alias to match your external domain.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                          @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                          @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                          What is in it for the partner, then?

                          Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                          I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                          It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

                          OK, then why is the partner involved?

                          Partner gets you upgraded service.
                          Microsoft gets their name out there more.
                          Customer learns of the partner.

                          Everyone benefits.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            No different than how a Dell Partner works, for example.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by BRRABill

                              @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                              @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                              @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                              @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                              What is in it for the partner, then?

                              Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                              I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                              It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

                              OK, then why is the partner involved?

                              Partner gets you upgraded service.
                              Microsoft gets their name out there more.
                              Customer learns of the partner.

                              Everyone benefits.

                              So ... you pay ... Microsoft? Even if you go through a partner?

                              And doing that gets you upgraded service. From Microsoft.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                What is in it for the partner, then?

                                Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                                I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                                It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

                                OK, then why is the partner involved?

                                Partner gets you upgraded service.
                                Microsoft gets their name out there more.
                                Customer learns of the partner.

                                Everyone benefits.

                                So ... you pay ... Micorsoft? Even if you go through a partner?

                                Of course, this is a partner, not a reseller. Partner = always, Reseller = never (with O365.) If you paid the partner, they'd be a reseller.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  And doing that gets you upgraded service. From Microsoft.

                                  Yes. MS needs to encourage everyone to be with a partner. That's how they do it.

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                                  • NetworkNerdN
                                    NetworkNerd
                                    last edited by NetworkNerd

                                    Is there a way I can guarantee internal e-mail would not leave the country through O365? If can't get that part handled we'd be in violation of ITAR.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
                                      last edited by

                                      @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                                      Is there a way I can guarantee internal e-mail would not leave the country through O365? If can't get that part handled we'd be in violation of ITAR.

                                      AFAIK ITAR is not supported on O365. You should have asked that up front as that has been covered previously. And ANY questions like that can only be addressed directly to Microsoft, no reseller or partner can guarantee that for you, no matter what line they feed you. They don't have that power. Microsoft might have added ITAR support, but if they did, it is very recent.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        ITAR is the only major reason that I have heard for people not using O365. It's not for business reasons, but legal ones.

                                        Pretty much you always run your own email for ITAR support.

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                                        • NetworkNerdN
                                          NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by NetworkNerd

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                          @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                                          Is there a way I can guarantee internal e-mail would not leave the country through O365? If can't get that part handled we'd be in violation of ITAR.

                                          AFAIK ITAR is not supported on O365. You should have asked that up front as that has been covered previously. And ANY questions like that can only be addressed directly to Microsoft, no reseller or partner can guarantee that for you, no matter what line they feed you. They don't have that power. Microsoft might have added ITAR support, but if they did, it is very recent.

                                          I didn't mention ITAR in my post but did ask about guaranteeing e-mail would not leave the US. Then I guess we continue to keep it in house. Thanks everyone for the help.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
                                            last edited by

                                            @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                                            I didn't mention ITAR in my post but did ask about guaranteeing e-mail would not leave the US. Then I guess we continue to keep it in house.

                                            Yes, but ITAR might have been ruled out for other reasons. I didn't know why ITAR wasn't available, but knew from previous questions that ITAR was a "ruling out" factor. It's very possible that Microsoft will certify that email will remain in the US "under certain conditions" but that ITAR is still not covered.

                                            With O365, as it is a global service, email moves outside of the US the moment that you tell the system that you live elsewhere. So that alone might rule out ITAR even though for a private company they might be able to guarantee US only storage.

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