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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @thwr
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      @thwr They have had PoE for a while, those were first. They are just now adding in the non PoE stuff to both the UniFi and EdgeMax lines.

      If you really want the single controller thing, then the UniFi line is the way to go for you.

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      • thwrT
        thwr @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

        @thwr They have had PoE for a while, those were first. They are just now adding in the non PoE stuff to both the UniFi and EdgeMax lines.

        If you really want the single controller thing, then the UniFi line is the way to go for you.

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        So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @thwr
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          @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

          So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.

          Yes, the base hardware is similar (but not exactly the same) from EdgeMax to UniFi.

          EdgeMax is more carrier grade in the design concept.

          UniFi is the central managed point and click Meraki concept.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @thwr
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            @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

            So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.

            Yes, UniFi would remind you of Meraki, but you host your own controller and don't have to deal with an annual charge for owning the gear.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

              @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

              So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.

              Yes, UniFi would remind you of Meraki, but you host your own controller and don't have to deal with an annual charge for owning the gear.

              The UniFi line is also more limited in functionality than EdgeMax when it comes to the routers. I have not compared the switches.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                @dafyre said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                @dafyre said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                @dafyre said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                @thwr Looks like a yes, according to the site. The only way it could get any better would be if they made similar models with POE that would integrate into the UniFi Controller bits.

                Would be awesome if they would support some sort of stacking, either soft stacking / logical stacking or "hard stacking" with a traditional daisy chain. Need to buy 4x48 port access switches soon. Just Layer 2, but I will need POE and would love to have a single console to manage them.

                Edit: UniFi controller... is that some sort of central management?

                Yeah. It's the same software that runs / manages all of the UnFi enabled gear. It's mainly for the APs, though.

                Uhm, really? So if I got 4x 48 port access switches + 2 APs I could manage them all from a single point?

                But only if you get THESE switches... And these don't have PoE.

                again with the not knowing what you are talking about... Did you bother to even check the Ubiquiti website?

                Is it not easier to just show me a link that has the PoE switches on it?

                I'd certainly love to be more familiar with the Ubiquiti stuff, but I don't have my hands on any of their gear at the moment. I am going by what I have seen others on here say.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  We are talking about getting one of the switches for here (Dallas) because we need more switching capacity and it would be a perfect opportunity to test it out. We only need PoE for the tiniest bit (two access points, two or three phones) so the new switches are perfect.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                    0_1477513600633_upload-e2b1a7f6-91e1-40aa-8bb8-beb4b5fce9cf

                    Thanks for that. See. It's easy to teach somebody something every now and again.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                      We are talking about getting one of the switches for here (Dallas) because we need more switching capacity and it would be a perfect opportunity to test it out. We only need PoE for the tiniest bit (two access points, two or three phones) so the new switches are perfect.

                      UniFi or Edge

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                        @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                        @dafyre said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                        @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                        @dafyre said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                        @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                        @dafyre said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                        @thwr Looks like a yes, according to the site. The only way it could get any better would be if they made similar models with POE that would integrate into the UniFi Controller bits.

                        Would be awesome if they would support some sort of stacking, either soft stacking / logical stacking or "hard stacking" with a traditional daisy chain. Need to buy 4x48 port access switches soon. Just Layer 2, but I will need POE and would love to have a single console to manage them.

                        Edit: UniFi controller... is that some sort of central management?

                        Yeah. It's the same software that runs / manages all of the UnFi enabled gear. It's mainly for the APs, though.

                        Uhm, really? So if I got 4x 48 port access switches + 2 APs I could manage them all from a single point?

                        But only if you get THESE switches... And these don't have PoE.

                        again with the not knowing what you are talking about... Did you bother to even check the Ubiquiti website?

                        Is it not easier to just show me a link that has the PoE switches on it?

                        I'd certainly love to be more familiar with the Ubiquiti stuff, but I don't have my hands on any of their gear at the moment. I am going by what I have seen others on here say.

                        Our complaint in the past is that they only had PoE.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                          @scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                          We are talking about getting one of the switches for here (Dallas) because we need more switching capacity and it would be a perfect opportunity to test it out. We only need PoE for the tiniest bit (two access points, two or three phones) so the new switches are perfect.

                          UniFi or Edge

                          UniFi, we have Edge in the datacenter already and like it a lot. Have not been able to play with the UniFi switches yet, only the APs.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                            @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                            @scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                            We are talking about getting one of the switches for here (Dallas) because we need more switching capacity and it would be a perfect opportunity to test it out. We only need PoE for the tiniest bit (two access points, two or three phones) so the new switches are perfect.

                            UniFi or Edge

                            UniFi, we have Edge in the datacenter already and like it a lot. Have not been able to play with the UniFi switches yet, only the APs.

                            Then the recently announced, but not yet easily obtained, UniFi 8 port 150W would be perfect.

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                            • thwrT
                              thwr @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                              @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                              So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.

                              Yes, the base hardware is similar (but not exactly the same) from EdgeMax to UniFi.

                              EdgeMax is more carrier grade in the design concept.

                              UniFi is the central managed point and click Meraki concept.

                              Interesting. Will have a look. Noticed that the UniFi Switches don't have SFP+ ports, that may be a showstopper for my specific use case. But I also don't want to spend like 2-4k EUR per access switch, that's why I'm still looking for options.

                              The point is: I do have a 10G uplink (dark fiber) at that site. It's planned as a shared research lab and all parties there will have their own little server cabinet. Need to bring at least a little bandwith to each party. A bit hard to explain.

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                @scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.

                                Yes, UniFi would remind you of Meraki, but you host your own controller and don't have to deal with an annual charge for owning the gear.

                                The UniFi line is also more limited in functionality than EdgeMax when it comes to the routers. I have not compared the switches.

                                I don't care about any routers, I'm a pfSense junky 😉

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @thwr
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                                  @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                  @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                  @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                  So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.

                                  Yes, the base hardware is similar (but not exactly the same) from EdgeMax to UniFi.

                                  EdgeMax is more carrier grade in the design concept.

                                  UniFi is the central managed point and click Meraki concept.

                                  Interesting. Will have a look. Noticed that the UniFi Switches don't have SFP+ ports, that may be a showstopper for my specific use case. But I also don't want to spend like 2-4k EUR per access switch, that's why I'm still looking for options.

                                  The point is: I do have a 10G uplink (dark fiber) at that site. It's planned as a shared research lab and all parties there will have their own little server cabinet. Need to bring at least a little bandwith to each party. A bit hard to explain.

                                  Two of the SFP are SFP+ on the PoE model.
                                  0_1477514243978_upload-72f6f5b5-8290-4ba5-837d-4d07c1daf0a5

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                                  • thwrT
                                    thwr @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                    @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                    @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                    @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                    So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.

                                    Yes, the base hardware is similar (but not exactly the same) from EdgeMax to UniFi.

                                    EdgeMax is more carrier grade in the design concept.

                                    UniFi is the central managed point and click Meraki concept.

                                    Interesting. Will have a look. Noticed that the UniFi Switches don't have SFP+ ports, that may be a showstopper for my specific use case. But I also don't want to spend like 2-4k EUR per access switch, that's why I'm still looking for options.

                                    The point is: I do have a 10G uplink (dark fiber) at that site. It's planned as a shared research lab and all parties there will have their own little server cabinet. Need to bring at least a little bandwith to each party. A bit hard to explain.

                                    Two of the SFP are SFP+ on the PoE model.
                                    0_1477514243978_upload-72f6f5b5-8290-4ba5-837d-4d07c1daf0a5

                                    Mh...

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                      @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                      We are talking about getting one of the switches for here (Dallas) because we need more switching capacity and it would be a perfect opportunity to test it out. We only need PoE for the tiniest bit (two access points, two or three phones) so the new switches are perfect.

                                      UniFi or Edge

                                      UniFi, we have Edge in the datacenter already and like it a lot. Have not been able to play with the UniFi switches yet, only the APs.

                                      Then the recently announced, but not yet easily obtained, UniFi 8 port 150W would be perfect.

                                      Yeah I need one of these NOW! I have a project waiting on this to ship!

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        LOL there seems to be a lot of FUD in this post

                                        LOL

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          When I first read Scott's post, I was like - uh... what's new here? OHHH no POE.. nice!

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                            @thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:

                                            So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.

                                            Yes, UniFi would remind you of Meraki, but you host your own controller and don't have to deal with an annual charge for owning the gear.

                                            The UniFi line is also more limited in functionality than EdgeMax when it comes to the routers. I have not compared the switches.

                                            I don't believe this to be true. If it's limited it's because of errors in the current firmware on the USG. Is it as easy to manage as the EdgeRouters? not really because you have to split your setup between GUI and config files depending on how advanced your setup is.

                                            A firmware bug they had in the past was that you couldn't setup the client VPN when you had static IP enabled on the USG. I've heard that this has been fixed, but haven't gone back and changed the install I have to confirm.

                                            I believe that the Unifi is designed to be equal to the EdgeRouter series in capabilities - but again, firmware bugs have and might still be causing differences.

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