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    • scottalanmillerS
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      ithaca college

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        ithaca college

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              • scottalanmillerS
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                Of course, they are all making these pictures hoping to shame Ithaca College, but of course the ones that they embarrass are the students who chose to go there. The college doesn't care, because they are a business and as long as students pay to attend, what do they care if their education and faculty are being mocked. They still outrank the famous Ivy League school that they can see on the other hill. They are mocking the very students that they will likely pretend to be there to support.

                And they shame themselves. If they are, across the board, unable to get other work, why would Ithaca College pay them more than they do? If there was a shortage of near minimum wage professors or students were not willing to be taught by professors not able to earn a living wage they would change. But that's not happening.

                If they want to change things, they need to acquire job skills and go work somewhere else. Look at some of them.... if they were really good at their fields, wouldn't they likely be able to find good part time or seasonal or whatever jobs in their field that at least pay reasonable wages? but they are doing farm work and manual labour to fill in the gaps. This helps to show that the college is hiring people only at the farm labour or manual labour level to be professors. The market outside of the college is not bearing them even as well as the college does. So really, seems like the college is doing them a favour as it is.

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                • scottalanmillerS
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                  No wonder that so many college graduates seem like whiny little entitled kids. They are being taught by whiny, entitled children.

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                  • nadnerBN
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                    @scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                    No wonder that so many college graduates seem like whiny little entitled kids. They are being taught by whiny, entitled children.

                    I've noticed that a lot of them are like that before they leave primary school (EN-US elementary school).

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                    • Deleted74295D
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                      So let me get this right.

                      They are sick of being taken advantage of....why don't they get other employment then?

                      I don't understand this concept that the world should change to suit me.

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                      • DustinB3403D
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                        They want to teach full time, and not have to do manual labor or whatever else when they aren't employed.

                        I see this has an issue on both sides.

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                        • DustinB3403D
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                          To continue this from earlier, people who go into college expecting to become tenured teachers with full time positions making 50K or whatever a "real salary" for a teacher / professor is are just insane.

                          Teaching to me is like cooking the fries at any fast food chain. Someone needs to do it, and there is a massive amount of people willing to come and do it for cheap, who offer nothing in particular for the job. They've got a piece of paper that says they "know this course material".

                          The continued mindset of students who go to college to become teachers (for whatever reason) don't see it as this. They see it as "I want to teach to help educate the community". Which quickly turns to "This community doesn't give a damn about me, only them selves. . . why shouldn't I get more"

                          It's an extremely self centered job (a lot like politics) that starts with good intentions, and then quickly devolves.

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                            @DustinB3403 said

                            It's an extremely self centered job (a lot like politics) that starts with good intentions, and then quickly devolves.

                            All the more reason why we should celebrate the few who continue to be good over the long haul.

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                            • DustinB3403D
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                              @Breffni-Potter said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                              @DustinB3403 said

                              It's an extremely self centered job (a lot like politics) that starts with good intentions, and then quickly devolves.

                              All the more reason why we should celebrate the few who continue to be good over the long haul.

                              Oh I don't disagree, but at the same time the idea of "I need a tenured job after 1-5 years" is crap.

                              No where else do you work for 1-5 years and have a life time position.

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                                @DustinB3403 said

                                No where else do you work for 1-5 years and have a life time position.

                                Politics?

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                                • DustinB3403D
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                                  @Breffni-Potter said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                  @DustinB3403 said

                                  No where else do you work for 1-5 years and have a life time position.

                                  Politics?

                                  Not even there, sure the population has a hard time changing people out (especially in the US) but in politics you have to rerun ever few years.

                                  It's essentially reapplying for the job.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                    @Breffni-Potter said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                    @DustinB3403 said

                                    No where else do you work for 1-5 years and have a life time position.

                                    Politics?

                                    Not even there, sure the population has a hard time changing people out (especially in the US) but in politics you have to rerun ever few years.

                                    It's essentially reapplying for the job.

                                    Depends. Federal Judges don't.

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                                      @stacksofplates said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                      @Breffni-Potter said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                      @DustinB3403 said

                                      No where else do you work for 1-5 years and have a life time position.

                                      Politics?

                                      Not even there, sure the population has a hard time changing people out (especially in the US) but in politics you have to rerun ever few years.

                                      It's essentially reapplying for the job.

                                      Depends. Federal Judges don't.

                                      They are also appointed and not elected. Granted they have to go through a vetting process that can be, but often isn't, fairly vigorous.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
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                                        @coliver said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                        @stacksofplates said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                        @Breffni-Potter said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                        @DustinB3403 said

                                        No where else do you work for 1-5 years and have a life time position.

                                        Politics?

                                        Not even there, sure the population has a hard time changing people out (especially in the US) but in politics you have to rerun ever few years.

                                        It's essentially reapplying for the job.

                                        Depends. Federal Judges don't.

                                        They are also appointed and not elected. Granted they have to go through a vetting process that can be, but often isn't, fairly vigorous.

                                        Right. It's still sort of relatable since the college has to hire (similar to appoint) the professor.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
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                                          Also, Chrome tells me that relatable isn't a word.

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                                          • coliverC
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                                            @stacksofplates said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                            @coliver said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                            @stacksofplates said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                            @Breffni-Potter said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

                                            @DustinB3403 said

                                            No where else do you work for 1-5 years and have a life time position.

                                            Politics?

                                            Not even there, sure the population has a hard time changing people out (especially in the US) but in politics you have to rerun ever few years.

                                            It's essentially reapplying for the job.

                                            Depends. Federal Judges don't.

                                            They are also appointed and not elected. Granted they have to go through a vetting process that can be, but often isn't, fairly vigorous.

                                            Right. It's still sort of relatable since the college has to hire (similar to appoint) the professor.

                                            Agreed, I'm against tenure in almost all cases. It leads to a lot of problems and doesn't solve the issue it originally meant to solve.

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