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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Why is the machine's aging an issue? Why is it slow today, hasn't it been slow all along? What has happened to make it slow now and not before?

      Why not just reinstall fresh and maybe update a little harder (more memory or an SSD will go a LONG way.) A Core2Duo is way more than enough for clerical work. Heck it is plenty for me.

      With operating systems getting faster and faster there aren't the aging problems of past decades. Unless she has XP, every new OS is faster than the last. 8.1 is faster than 8 is faster than 7 is faster than Vista. So updating for the last four versions has made machines faster and faster.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        While I agree with Scott, the cost upgrading an OS hardly seems worth it when it's 1/3 the cost of a whole new machine. Even after you replace the OS the old machine could die resulting in the requirement to purchase a new one regardless, and making your OS purchase an extra expense.

        If funds really are that tight I would really consider used machines with a new OS.

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said:

          My #1 question is why are you looking at processors? Buy a Dell Optiplex 3020 for $520 (per Dell Website, a vendor may do better).
          Screen Shot 2014-07-15 at 5.46.14 PM.png

          That is with the 3 year NBD warranty. A vendor can spec you one with the base 1 year warranty and be even cheaper.

          These are the models I've been buying. They have been pretty rock solid

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          • garak0410G
            garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            Why is the machine's aging an issue? Why is it slow today, hasn't it been slow all along? What has happened to make it slow now and not before?

            Why not just reinstall fresh and maybe update a little harder (more memory or an SSD will go a LONG way.) A Core2Duo is way more than enough for clerical work. Heck it is plenty for me.

            With operating systems getting faster and faster there aren't the aging problems of past decades. Unless she has XP, every new OS is faster than the last. 8.1 is faster than 8 is faster than 7 is faster than Vista. So updating for the last four versions has made machines faster and faster.

            It's just the history of these crappy ZT machines I've had to put up with. Don't want to get into details but everyone of them even with clean installs, have performed poorly...I've tried memory, new hard drives...over and over they've proven to be bad.

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410 @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              While I agree with Scott, the cost upgrading an OS hardly seems worth it when it's 1/3 the cost of a whole new machine. Even after you replace the OS the old machine could die resulting in the requirement to purchase a new one regardless, and making your OS purchase an extra expense.

              If funds really are that tight I would really consider used machines with a new OS.

              Funds aren't so tight as it is her manager doesn't think she needs a "new" one, so I have to battle those kinds of things...

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @garak0410
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                @garak0410 said:

                Funds aren't so tight as it is her manager doesn't think she needs a "new" one, so I have to battle those kinds of things...

                Show the true costs to her manager. If she does not agree, go to whoever controls the managers budget. Be sure to include the cost of your time. You are not free, even if some people think so because you are on salary.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @garak0410
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                  @garak0410 said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  While I agree with Scott, the cost upgrading an OS hardly seems worth it when it's 1/3 the cost of a whole new machine. Even after you replace the OS the old machine could die resulting in the requirement to purchase a new one regardless, and making your OS purchase an extra expense.

                  If funds really are that tight I would really consider used machines with a new OS.

                  Funds aren't so tight as it is her manager doesn't think she needs a "new" one, so I have to battle those kinds of things...

                  Hold the phone - why are you dealing with this at all if the manger doesn't think she needs a new one? Is the user complaining to you? If so, is it simply in your power to replace when you think it should be? If not, if that's the managers decision, then give your opinion and walk away. Ask the employee to complain to their manager as you have no control over the decision.

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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410 @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @garak0410 said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    While I agree with Scott, the cost upgrading an OS hardly seems worth it when it's 1/3 the cost of a whole new machine. Even after you replace the OS the old machine could die resulting in the requirement to purchase a new one regardless, and making your OS purchase an extra expense.

                    If funds really are that tight I would really consider used machines with a new OS.

                    Funds aren't so tight as it is her manager doesn't think she needs a "new" one, so I have to battle those kinds of things...

                    Hold the phone - why are you dealing with this at all if the manger doesn't think she needs a new one? Is the user complaining to you? If so, is it simply in your power to replace when you think it should be? If not, if that's the managers decision, then give your opinion and walk away. Ask the employee to complain to their manager as you have no control over the decision.

                    I spoke with my direct manager (the VP) and he said get her the OptiPlex 3020...solution solved. I hate it when I get caught in the middle between other managers...

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @garak0410
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                      @garak0410 said:

                      I spoke with my direct manager (the VP) and he said get her the OptiPlex 3020...solution solved. I hate it when I get caught in the middle between other managers...

                      Office politics are a thing i do not miss.

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                      • garak0410G
                        garak0410 @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @garak0410 said:

                        I spoke with my direct manager (the VP) and he said get her the OptiPlex 3020...solution solved. I hate it when I get caught in the middle between other managers...

                        Office politics are a thing i do not miss.

                        Luckily I rarely get involved in them...heck, I am never involved with them...just in the crossfire once and a while.

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