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    What Microsoft OS is best for business?

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    • Mike RalstonM
      Mike Ralston
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      So you would suggest prebuilt PC's from companies like HP and such with 8.1 over anything else?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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        @Mike-Ralston said:

        So you would suggest prebuilt PC's from companies like HP and such with 8.1 over anything else?

        Yes. Always for business. White boxes are for gaming and hobby use. For business HP and Dell.

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        • Mike RalstonM
          Mike Ralston
          last edited by

          Now what about a Hackintosh running Windows alongside MacOS?

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          • C
            Carnival Boy
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            Windows 7. I've nothing particularly against Windows 8.1, but I don't see what if offers over 7, other than faster boot time. And pretty much everyone is familiar with the Windows 7 interface, which isn't that much different from XP. I'd rather not make users go through the learning curve of Windows 8 unless I have to. And HP PCs still come pre-installed with 7, so it's convenient to leave it as is rather than re-installing 8.1.

            Office, definitely 2010. I can't stand 2013.

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            • Mike RalstonM
              Mike Ralston
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              So the consensus is buy 7 or 8 on a prebuilt?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                last edited by

                @Mike-Ralston said:

                Now what about a Hackintosh running Windows alongside MacOS?

                There is no license for that.

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                • Mike RalstonM
                  Mike Ralston
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                  Not officially, no.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                    last edited by

                    @Mike-Ralston said:

                    Not officially, no.

                    Licenses, by definition, are official. Pirated software is unlicensed.

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                    • Mike RalstonM
                      Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller You don't need to do anything illegal, you can buy a copy of Mac OS, and a copy of Windows.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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                        @Mike-Ralston said:

                        @scottalanmiller You don't need to do anything illegal, you can buy a copy of Mac OS, and a copy of Windows.

                        That's pirating. Completely illegal. Buying something unlicensed isn't buying it. The Mac hardware is required for a license. No different legally than shoplifting. It's using something you didn't pay for. The media is all you are buying. The right to use is quite expensive.

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                        • Mike RalstonM
                          Mike Ralston
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                          Last I knew, you could go out and buy a copy of Mac OS directly from Apple.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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                            @Mike-Ralston said:

                            Last I knew, you could go out and buy a copy of Mac OS directly from Apple.

                            That has never been the case. You can buy the media. The license only applies if it is installed on Mac hardware.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Remember "buying software" means buying a license. The box at the store means nothing. The disk means nothing. Windows is a free download. The license is where the money goes.

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                              • garak0410G
                                garak0410 @Mike Ralston
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                                @Mike-Ralston said:

                                So the consensus is buy 7 or 8 on a prebuilt?

                                I am still buying 7 on my prebuilt machines "just because." I do agree 8.1 is more stable and secure...my users here live off of short cuts and not really the start menu, so going to 8.1 won't be hard if they still just want shortcuts...I really wish "Threshhold" was coming out this fall... 😞

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  I agree with Scott, for a business environment you should go with mainstream manufactured laptops/desktop specifically business models.
                                  As for the OS, most if not all of us should be reimaging the computers as soon as they hit our floor - ditch that OEM installed crap! Moving on - I love Windows 8(.1), but if you have legitimate compatibility issues, then by all means use WIndows 7, but I have yet to find anything that won't run on Windows 8(.1) that will on Windows 7. Granted you may have to ensure you have x86 vs x64, but when you reimage you can take care of that.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Dash is completely correct. Prebuilt, enterprise hardware with our own, standard images. That's the way to do it for business. Even pretty tiny businesses.

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                                    • C
                                      Carnival Boy
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      most if not all of us should be reimaging the computers as soon as they hit our floor - ditch that OEM installed crap!

                                      I've never done that, and have never really understood the reasoning behind it. I can see that creating a custom image might save time if you're setting up dozens of PCs at a time, but like a lot of SMEs I tend to only buy PCs a handful at time, if that. I've had headaches in the past installing the correct drivers after doing a vanilla OS install, whereas the pre-installed OEM image always includes the correct drivers.

                                      I also buy from the bottom end of HP's business PC range. I don't think these models count as enterprise hardware. The range has a much shorter lifecycle, for example, so a model purchased today might be replaced with a different model in 6 months time with different components, making it impractical to use standard images.

                                      So, as usual, I'm probably the odd one out on ML. Well, it's worked for me 🙂

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                                      • Mike RalstonM
                                        Mike Ralston
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                                        Can an AD system push out a fresh install? Or must that be done physically?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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                                          @Mike-Ralston a fresh install of what?

                                          AD is a directory and authentication system. That's all that AD does. AD doesn't have any "actions".

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                                          • Mike RalstonM
                                            Mike Ralston
                                            last edited by

                                            AD can be used to remotely install programs and updates on a whole network of PC's, can it do fresh Windows installs?

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