Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10
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Upgrading 3rd party software isn't always possible, or desirable. We have an application that requires MDAC (Microsoft Data Access Components). I couldn't find any way of installing this in Windows 10, never mind running it in compatibility mode.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
Upgrading 3rd party software isn't always possible, or desirable. We have an application that requires MDAC (Microsoft Data Access Components). I couldn't find any way of installing this in Windows 10, never mind running it in compatibility mode.
Not to sound mean, but if the software will only work with MDAC, why continue to use the software? That seems like a major barrier to being able to stay current and secure if this software just doesn't work anywhere else.
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You're not being mean, it is what it is. We have a lot of specialist engineering software that is, to say the least, pretty old. The intention is to replace it and to upgrade to Windows 10. Hence the ultimate need to upgrade at some point in the future. HENCE THE THREAD!!
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
You're not being mean, it is what it is. We have a lot of specialist engineering software that is, to say the least, pretty old. The intention is to replace it and to upgrade to Windows 10. Hence the ultimate need to upgrade at some point in the future. HENCE THE THREAD!!
Have you tried to install MDAC into Windows 10 and then see if these programs will work?
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No, have not encountered anyone paying for the upgrade yet. It was free until quite recently, just under a month ago, so I suspect that there was a surge of conversions and then a huge drop off (I know that I saw the surge) so I'll be surprised to hear many stories of it for a few months yet.
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I'm sure that MS has a path to make this as easy and painless as possible, though. They have a lot of interest still in phasing out Windows 7.
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@DustinB3403 said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
Have you tried to install MDAC into Windows 10 and then see if these programs will work?
Yes. IIRC, I couldn't get MDAC to install at all.
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@scottalanmiller said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
They have a lot of interest still in phasing out Windows 7.
You'd think, but I'm told that there's no upgrade pricing and I would have to pay full price which is $250. That seems a bit excessive. I was expecting it to be half that.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
@scottalanmiller said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
They have a lot of interest still in phasing out Windows 7.
You'd think, but I'm told that there's no upgrade pricing and I would have to pay full price which is $250. That seems a bit excessive. I was expecting it to be half that.
Wow, what? That seems crazy. Pro or Enterprise?
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
@scottalanmiller said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
They have a lot of interest still in phasing out Windows 7.
You'd think, but I'm told that there's no upgrade pricing and I would have to pay full price which is $250. That seems a bit excessive. I was expecting it to be half that.
I searched and you are correct. This gets a WTF.
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Just buy new machines at that point! Or move to Linux.
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Oh but only $88 for OEM in the US, or $130 for full...
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That first one on your list at $130 looks like OEM. We currently pay a lot more for licences in the UK because 51% of our idiot population opted to
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Chances are anything that works on 7 is gonna work on 10... Update one and see if you're looking to decide whether or not to purchase new systems.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
What if they couldn't upgrade because their software applications didn't support Windows 10?
Or because they didn't have the resources available to perform the upgrades (I don't believe it was a trivial task).
Which is why everyone had the option to upgrade the machine, claim the digital entitlement for that system, then downgrade back to 7. If getting Windows 10 for free was not a business priority and other things took precedence then they now have to pay for it.
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Correct. That was exactly our case. That's what I meant by "didn't have resources available".
My calculations were based on a predicting that the upgrade licence would be closer to £100 than £200, but still, I don't think that makes me an idiot as @DustinB3403 is claiming. I intended this thread to be about how to upgrade Windows 7 now it is not free, not to discuss how to run old, unsupported applications in Windows 10 or how much of an idiot I am.
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@Carnival-Boy For me personally I'd go for a hardware refresh which will have the new OEM license with the machine anyway.
The cost of a retail key is not worth it for a machine which is X years old anyway. If you have volume licensing then that's a different story.
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That's what we're generally doing. I've upgraded a few older Windows 7 PCs with SSDs, more RAM and Windows 10 and the results haven't been very satisfactory even when the OS upgrade was free, so I'm definitely not paying £190. It's mainly a few newer laptops and CAD workstations where we're looking to pay for a new licence.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
Correct. That was exactly our case. That's what I meant by "didn't have resources available".
My calculations were based on a predicting that the upgrade licence would be closer to £100 than £200, but still, I don't think that makes me an idiot as @DustinB3403 is claiming. I intended this thread to be about how to upgrade Windows 7 now it is not free, not to discuss how to run old, unsupported applications in Windows 10 or how much of an idiot I am.
Now I didn't call you an idiot. I said if people haven't upgraded when it was free they're idiots and should have to pay for it if they want to upgrade.
Because and @Breffni-Potter said it
@Breffni-Potter said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
Which is why everyone had the option to upgrade the machine, claim the digital entitlement for that system, then downgrade back to 7. If getting Windows 10 for free was not a business priority and other things took precedence then they now have to pay for it.
That is my point.
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@DustinB3403 said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
Now I didn't call you an idiot. I said if people haven't upgraded when it was free they're idiots and should have to pay for it if they want to upgrade.
Well, I'm obviously one of these people as I wouldn't have started the thread otherwise, would I? Of course I should have to pay for it, Microsoft has been clear on that from the start.
