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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Well then what is wrong here, I'm about fed up with trying to figure this Kibana out..

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates
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        Use graylog and rsyslog. If you are supposed to treat XenServer as an appliance, don't install Filebeat and use the built in tools.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates
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          Also Filebeat is for logstash not kibana.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            Kibana is supposed to be using Elk, Logstash and Filebeat to collect and present the logs.

            At least according the guide written.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates
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              Filebeat is the forwarder for logstash. You could use both elasticsearch and logstash and not install kibana. It's just a front end for data visualization.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                Kibana is supposed to be using Elk, Logstash and Filebeat to collect and present the logs.

                At least according the guide written.

                Kibana doesn't "use" anything. I think you are confusing what the parts do. Kibana is just the interface on top, it just shows graphs and stuff. The system doing the work is Logstash and ElasticSearch. Logstash is using Filebeat. Logstash is storing the data. Logstash is the real application here. Kibana doesn't "do" anything when you aren't looking at it.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                  Well then what is wrong here, I'm about fed up with trying to figure this Kibana out..

                  Figure out Logstash and Filebeat, the rest will take care of itself. RIght now, Filebeat isn't running. Start there. Why isn't it starting. Look at the logs.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    Looking right so far?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Yup, it is up and running now. Now monitor the logs, it should tell you when log egress happens.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        So in a sidebar conversation with @scottalanmiller

                        I don't have any new logs in /var/log on XS6.5

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                        So where else should I look for this?

                        (Same on the logging server)

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                        • DanpD
                          Danp @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 Did you use XC to change the logging to a remote location?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Danp
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                            @Danp said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                            @DustinB3403 Did you use XC to change the logging to a remote location?

                            Yes.

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                            • DanpD
                              Danp @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 Then it stops writing to the local logs in some cases as described at the bottom of this article.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
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                                OK I'm done with this trial......

                                I'm just going in circles and before I break something I need a breather...

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  Damn - I'm glad Dustin ran through this first I think I would have been pulling my hair out LONG before he did.

                                  Dustin (and I) want NO local logging on our XS boxes. We would love to have this log information inside something like ELK where we can do easy searches and graphs on it.

                                  If Filebeat forwards the local logs to the ELK server how do we get a situation where no local logs are stored on the XS boxes?

                                  Do we seriously have to setup a syslog server in the middle that does nothing but collect logs and run Filebeat, which then forwards the syslog's logs to the ELK server?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    Hopefully there is a way to send the logs to Logstash directly, instead of sending them via Filebeat.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                      @Danp said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                      @DustinB3403 Did you use XC to change the logging to a remote location?

                                      Yes.

                                      Check the logs there, then.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                        Hopefully there is a way to send the logs to Logstash directly, instead of sending them via Filebeat.

                                        Of course, syslog, which you are already running. But Filebeat makes Logstash ingest easier.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                          @Danp said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                          @DustinB3403 Did you use XC to change the logging to a remote location?

                                          Yes.

                                          Check the logs there, then.

                                          I'm guessing there is not there - because the 'there' that he is forwarding them to is the ELK server.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                            @Danp said in Starting Clean - Kibana:

                                            @DustinB3403 Did you use XC to change the logging to a remote location?

                                            Yes.

                                            Check the logs there, then.

                                            I'm guessing there is not there - because the 'there' that he is forwarding them to is the ELK server.

                                            You can't both forward to ELK and use Filebeat!!
                                            Of course this isn't working.

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