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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch There are local accounts, but they're hidden off, its how you'd access the system in the case of a DSRM need.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @dafyre
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        @dafyre said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

        @JaredBusch said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

        @DustinB3403 said in Trying to use SS to restore a vDC:

        So I'm trying to reset the local administrator account password used on a DC, because I can't get into DSRM without the password used when this DC was created. (no one here knows what was used).

        MS's instructions say to boot into DSRM mode, open an elevated command prompt and reset the password.

        Obviously this doesn't work if you can't log in. (like me)

        Any help with how I can reset the local administrator password on a DC so I can get into DSRM so I can then restore the SS to this VM?

        Thanks in advance

        There is no such thing as a local domain administrator password.
        You either have a domain password or a local password.

        I was under the impression, that when you DCPROMO a box, the local accounts are nuked. But that is only a vague recollection.

        The local admin password becomes the password to get to the system when you boot it into DS Recovery mode.

        Then would a password recovery boot disk still work? If it is still a "local account" ?Never had a need for this on a DC.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch Unfortunately no, and the reason being is (and I'm hazy on it too) is that the DC local accounts aren't stored in the same place as a "local" account.

          if that makes any sense.

          Our MSP reset the password on a trial system to a generic password, and it worked, but I can't find what they did anywhere online.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @dafyre
            last edited by

            @dafyre said in Trying to use SS to restore a vDC:

            @JaredBusch said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

            @DustinB3403 said in Trying to use SS to restore a vDC:

            So I'm trying to reset the local administrator account password used on a DC, because I can't get into DSRM without the password used when this DC was created. (no one here knows what was used).

            MS's instructions say to boot into DSRM mode, open an elevated command prompt and reset the password.

            Obviously this doesn't work if you can't log in. (like me)

            Any help with how I can reset the local administrator password on a DC so I can get into DSRM so I can then restore the SS to this VM?

            Thanks in advance

            There is no such thing as a local domain administrator password.
            You either have a domain password or a local password.

            I was under the impression, that when you DCPROMO a box, the local accounts are nuked. But that is only a vague recollection.

            The local admin password becomes the password to get to the system when you boot it into DS Recovery mode.

            It only becomes the password used to promote the server to be a DC.

            It doesn't stay current with the domain.

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            • momurdaM
              momurda
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              I assume you cant get this thing booted normally and that is why you need this?
              Otherwise ntdsutil should be used while logged in as domain admin.
              If so,
              You might be able to use the nt offline pw reset tool (ive used it many times, just never on a dc).
              www.chntpw.com/download
              You can load this up and then see if it will alow you to change the local admin pw. It wont make any changes (just reads) til you tell it to.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @momurda
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                @momurda said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

                I assume you cant get this thing booted normally and that is why you need this?
                Otherwise ntdsutil should be used while logged in as domain admin.
                If so,
                You might be able to use the nt offline pw reset tool (ive used it many times, just never on a dc).
                www.chntpw.com/download
                You can load this up and then see if it will alow you to change the local admin pw. It wont make any changes (just reads) til you tell it to.

                The issue is we can't restore this DC, with it booting normally, it has to boot into DSRM to recover the System State of the running Hyper-V VM.

                The local user account tools don't work for this particular account type.

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda
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                  Are you sure? I think the account id is still 500 for administrator(this is the RID on the nt offline pw tool), and it should still use the C:\Windows\System32\config\SAM to store it.
                  You could try it without risk i think
                  Also found this
                  https://adsecurity.org/?p=1714 may not be helpful, but informative at least.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @dafyre
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                    @dafyre said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

                    @JaredBusch said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Trying to use SS to restore a vDC:

                    So I'm trying to reset the local administrator account password used on a DC, because I can't get into DSRM without the password used when this DC was created. (no one here knows what was used).

                    MS's instructions say to boot into DSRM mode, open an elevated command prompt and reset the password.

                    Obviously this doesn't work if you can't log in. (like me)

                    Any help with how I can reset the local administrator password on a DC so I can get into DSRM so I can then restore the SS to this VM?

                    Thanks in advance

                    There is no such thing as a local domain administrator password.
                    You either have a domain password or a local password.

                    I was under the impression, that when you DCPROMO a box, the local accounts are nuked. But that is only a vague recollection.

                    The local admin password becomes the password to get to the system when you boot it into DS Recovery mode.

                    I don't think this is entirely accurate. When you promote a DC (at least back in 2008 and older) it asked you for a Recovery Mode password. It didn't just use whatever the local Admin password was as the Recovery user.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      http://www.top-password.com/knowledge/reset-directory-services-restore-mode-password.html

                      Well these reset instructions seem to imply that the DSRM user is Administrator...

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

                        http://www.top-password.com/knowledge/reset-directory-services-restore-mode-password.html

                        Well these reset instructions seem to imply that the DSRM user is Administrator...

                        Thanks I'll try that tomorrow

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

                          @dafyre said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

                          @JaredBusch said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Trying to use SS to restore a vDC:

                          So I'm trying to reset the local administrator account password used on a DC, because I can't get into DSRM without the password used when this DC was created. (no one here knows what was used).

                          MS's instructions say to boot into DSRM mode, open an elevated command prompt and reset the password.

                          Obviously this doesn't work if you can't log in. (like me)

                          Any help with how I can reset the local administrator password on a DC so I can get into DSRM so I can then restore the SS to this VM?

                          Thanks in advance

                          There is no such thing as a local domain administrator password.
                          You either have a domain password or a local password.

                          I was under the impression, that when you DCPROMO a box, the local accounts are nuked. But that is only a vague recollection.

                          The local admin password becomes the password to get to the system when you boot it into DS Recovery mode.

                          I don't think this is entirely accurate. When you promote a DC (at least back in 2008 and older) it asked you for a Recovery Mode password. It didn't just use whatever the local Admin password was as the Recovery user.

                          The recovery mode password, I think, is to do database restores.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Reset local domain 'administrator' password to restore system state to migrated vm:

                            http://www.top-password.com/knowledge/reset-directory-services-restore-mode-password.html

                            Well these reset instructions seem to imply that the DSRM user is Administrator...

                            This did it.

                            Thank you @Dashrender !

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