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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
      last edited by

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

      We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

      yes, i got it,
      but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

      No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
        last edited by

        @Minion-Queen said:

        There are other hosted options out there for PBX systems

        Exactly. We offer 3CX exactly as he is suggesting but we know it isn't a good answer. Hosted Elastix or hosted FreePBX costs less and does more. 3CX is purely a negative in this scenario.

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        • alexntgA
          alexntg @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

          We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

          yes, i got it,
          but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

          No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

          The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @alexntg
            last edited by

            @alexntg said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

            We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

            yes, i got it,
            but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

            No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

            The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

            He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

            In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

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            • alexntgA
              alexntg @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @alexntg said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

              We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

              yes, i got it,
              but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

              No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

              The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

              He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

              In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

              Where's the other one? From what I'm reading here, it's a brilliant setup. With the onsite ISR and switch combined with hosted PBX, it allows for all of the automation and endpoint configuration that makes Cisco wonderful, and also allows for a carefully controlled environment in order to provide proper service quality. Perhaps something in this particular deployment/implementation is screwed up, but the groundwork is quite ideal.

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @alexntg said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                yes, i got it,
                but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @alexntg said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                  We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                  yes, i got it,
                  but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                  No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                  The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                  He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                  In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                  you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

                  That's where the issues come in. They probably can't enable that feature without causing problems in their shared environment.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by

                    the ISP give us a pstn line, and a cisco voice gateway, the voice gateway connected with the POE switch, and the cisco ip phone connected with the switch, the switch does the DHCP for the ip phones, the pfSense does DHCP for computers
                    the switch has 2 VLANs

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
                      last edited by

                      the hosted UCM is connected with my switch via a pstn line (voice gateway in the middle)
                      they charge us for every cisco ip phone (we gave them the MAC address for each ip phone)

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        each cisco ip phone has it own extension and pstn number,
                        they give us a portion of the management via webconfigurator (VOSS)

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @alexntg said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                          We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                          yes, i got it,
                          but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                          No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                          The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                          He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                          In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                          you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

                          That's where the issues come in. They probably can't enable that feature without causing problems in their shared environment.

                          i think so, they said to me that we don't provide recording for our customer, they tell me you can do that via third party software on your LAN,
                          but as far as i can see it is not possible to do that except via your VOIP server, otherwise you cannot

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                          • alexntgA
                            alexntg
                            last edited by

                            The phones should be registering with the CUCM (or in some cases the ISR).. The ISR would be communicating with the CUCM over IP, not via PSTN. The PSTN would be used for external telephone communications, or depending on the setup, is just there for E911. Without seeing the ISR config, it's hard to know for sure.

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                            • alexntgA
                              alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @alexntg said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                              We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                              yes, i got it,
                              but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                              No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                              The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                              He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                              In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                              you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

                              That's where the issues come in. They probably can't enable that feature without causing problems in their shared environment.

                              i think so, they said to me that we don't provide recording for our customer, they tell me you can do that via third party software on your LAN,
                              but as far as i can see it is not possible to do that except via your VOIP server, otherwise you cannot

                              CUCM does allow for an external recorder that could be situated on your network.

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN @alexntg
                                last edited by

                                CUCM does allow for an external recorder that could be situated on your network.

                                tell me please which software can do that,,,,, i will be very very appreciated

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                                • IT-ADMINI
                                  IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  this exactly what they tell me, having my own external recorder on my LAN, but which software i don't know ????

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                                    I haven't been on SW for a couple days. let me guess, George?

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                                    • FiyaFlyF
                                      FiyaFly
                                      last edited by

                                      Without extensive research I cannot tell you what would be best, but you can check out this page from Cisco, as they offer five different options for recording your calls. Might be able to help you out. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/collab09/clb09/recordng.html

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                                      • NetworkNerdN
                                        NetworkNerd @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                                        I haven't been on SW for a couple days. let me guess, George?

                                        Yep.

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                                        • NetworkNerdN
                                          NetworkNerd
                                          last edited by NetworkNerd

                                          Maybe?
                                          http://www.telrex.com/integrations/cisco-call-recording.php

                                          Consider the cost to implement and manage in addition to your current PBX. Is the TCO justified?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @JaredBusch said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                                            I haven't been on SW for a couple days. let me guess, George?

                                            Ding sing ding

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