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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @alexntg
      last edited by

      @alexntg said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

      We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

      yes, i got it,
      but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

      No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

      The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

      He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

      In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

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      • alexntgA
        alexntg @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @alexntg said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

        We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

        yes, i got it,
        but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

        No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

        The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

        He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

        In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

        Where's the other one? From what I'm reading here, it's a brilliant setup. With the onsite ISR and switch combined with hosted PBX, it allows for all of the automation and endpoint configuration that makes Cisco wonderful, and also allows for a carefully controlled environment in order to provide proper service quality. Perhaps something in this particular deployment/implementation is screwed up, but the groundwork is quite ideal.

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @alexntg said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

          We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

          yes, i got it,
          but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

          No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

          The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

          He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

          In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

          you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
            last edited by

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @alexntg said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

            We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

            yes, i got it,
            but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

            No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

            The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

            He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

            In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

            you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

            That's where the issues come in. They probably can't enable that feature without causing problems in their shared environment.

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              the ISP give us a pstn line, and a cisco voice gateway, the voice gateway connected with the POE switch, and the cisco ip phone connected with the switch, the switch does the DHCP for the ip phones, the pfSense does DHCP for computers
              the switch has 2 VLANs

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
                last edited by

                the hosted UCM is connected with my switch via a pstn line (voice gateway in the middle)
                they charge us for every cisco ip phone (we gave them the MAC address for each ip phone)

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  each cisco ip phone has it own extension and pstn number,
                  they give us a portion of the management via webconfigurator (VOSS)

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @alexntg said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                    We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                    yes, i got it,
                    but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                    No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                    The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                    He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                    In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                    you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

                    That's where the issues come in. They probably can't enable that feature without causing problems in their shared environment.

                    i think so, they said to me that we don't provide recording for our customer, they tell me you can do that via third party software on your LAN,
                    but as far as i can see it is not possible to do that except via your VOIP server, otherwise you cannot

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                    • alexntgA
                      alexntg
                      last edited by

                      The phones should be registering with the CUCM (or in some cases the ISR).. The ISR would be communicating with the CUCM over IP, not via PSTN. The PSTN would be used for external telephone communications, or depending on the setup, is just there for E911. Without seeing the ISR config, it's hard to know for sure.

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                      • alexntgA
                        alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @alexntg said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                        We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                        yes, i got it,
                        but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                        No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                        The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                        He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                        In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                        you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

                        That's where the issues come in. They probably can't enable that feature without causing problems in their shared environment.

                        i think so, they said to me that we don't provide recording for our customer, they tell me you can do that via third party software on your LAN,
                        but as far as i can see it is not possible to do that except via your VOIP server, otherwise you cannot

                        CUCM does allow for an external recorder that could be situated on your network.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN @alexntg
                          last edited by

                          CUCM does allow for an external recorder that could be situated on your network.

                          tell me please which software can do that,,,,, i will be very very appreciated

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            this exactly what they tell me, having my own external recorder on my LAN, but which software i don't know ????

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                              I haven't been on SW for a couple days. let me guess, George?

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                              • FiyaFlyF
                                FiyaFly
                                last edited by

                                Without extensive research I cannot tell you what would be best, but you can check out this page from Cisco, as they offer five different options for recording your calls. Might be able to help you out. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/collab09/clb09/recordng.html

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                                • NetworkNerdN
                                  NetworkNerd @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                                  I haven't been on SW for a couple days. let me guess, George?

                                  Yep.

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                                  • NetworkNerdN
                                    NetworkNerd
                                    last edited by NetworkNerd

                                    Maybe?
                                    http://www.telrex.com/integrations/cisco-call-recording.php

                                    Consider the cost to implement and manage in addition to your current PBX. Is the TCO justified?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                                      I haven't been on SW for a couple days. let me guess, George?

                                      Ding sing ding

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        He's a good guy but he's a little over excited about 3CX. It's never the best option, we've tried it and except in crippled "need it to be free" + "need to support it in house with no experience" + "only know windows" situations. Which exist, but mostly shouldn't.

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                                        • IT-ADMINI
                                          IT-ADMIN @NetworkNerd
                                          last edited by IT-ADMIN

                                          @NetworkNerd said:

                                          Maybe?
                                          http://www.telrex.com/integrations/cisco-call-recording.php

                                          Consider the cost to implement and manage in addition to your current PBX. Is the TCO justified?

                                          please Sir, can you tell me how i can place this recording machine in my LAN, should it be placed in the voice VLAN?? should i made further configuration in the switch ???
                                          and how this software can capture the voice ??

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                                          • alexntgA
                                            alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @NetworkNerd said:

                                            Maybe?
                                            http://www.telrex.com/integrations/cisco-call-recording.php

                                            Consider the cost to implement and manage in addition to your current PBX. Is the TCO justified?

                                            please Sir, can you tell me how i can place this recording machine in my LAN, should it be placed in the voice VLAN?? should i made further configuration in the switch ???
                                            and how this software can capture the voice ??

                                            For that level of configuration change, I'd recommend working with a Cisco VOIP partner on that. Alternatively, since the company providing your phone system also manages your switches and such, they may be able to point you in the right direction.

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