What Are You Doing Right Now
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@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller I completely agree with the idea. I've never seen any real-world examples where it actually does keep everyone fed/housed.
that's probably because we don't have the technology to fully make it so.
But Switzerland's attempt to make a vote of it kinda shows that between the money have saved and the technology they already have, in a smaller situation, it might be fully possible.
Switzerland said that they'd had the technology for some time (few years, at least.) They are already at the point where they don't need to work.
I wonder, assuming that the Swiss people want to keep buying things like Xbox's, etc - how does that part work? Where does the money come from for the non working to get these type of luxuries?
Are you saying that the state run (or private, but taxes collect enough) facilities make enough money and there is enough desire by workers to keep working to make that system float?
Did people give reasons why they voted it down?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
The optional part is the key.
Now, do the workers get more because they choose to work?
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@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
What's the problem? Why do you need to change anything? Those who want to be truly educated today, they find the way, why would this be any different tomorrow?
One of the key things of the education system was to teach basic skills needed by workers - if you don't need workers, then they don't need to learn. But the few who do, they will be the ones doing the work, mostly because they want to.
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@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
The optional part is the key.
Now, do the workers get more because they choose to work?
Of course, they get paid what they are worth. Which might be less than minimum wage, it might be billions. Businesses are free to be capitalistic and market driven, none of this fake "forcing companies to handle the welfare system for the government crap".
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
What's the problem? Why do you need to change anything? Those who want to be truly educated today, they find the way, why would this be any different tomorrow?
One of the key things of the education system was to teach basic skills needed by workers - if you don't need workers, then they don't need to learn. But the few who do, they will be the ones doing the work, mostly because they want to.
Which further reduces the number of workers that we need! How many teachers are hired to teach kids things that they don't need and how many teachers are only there to teach other future teachers! The number of jobs that would be reduced is incredible!
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
Kittens, IceCream and Dictatorship for all. Vote Speller '16 and know that your fate is safe in my iron grip.
*** requests for birth certificate will be met by firing squad at 0900 every Monday morning directly after the 0830 coffee break.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
"Vote @MattSpeller 2016.... or he'll knock the cigrits outta ya. Friggin rights, bud!"
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
"Vote @MattSpeller 2016.... or he'll knock the cigrits outta ya. Friggin rights, bud!
Ironically one of my first acts of office would be to ban tobacco cultivation and importation beyond a few plants for personal consumption. As a consumer of it I would suffer right along with everyone else.
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@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
"Vote @MattSpeller 2016.... or he'll knock the cigrits outta ya. Friggin rights, bud!
Ironically one of my first acts of office would be to ban tobacco cultivation. As a consumer of it I would suffer right along with everyone else.
I would hope other types of cultivation would be decriminalized as a trade-off...
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
"Vote @MattSpeller 2016.... or he'll knock the cigrits outta ya. Friggin rights, bud!
Ironically one of my first acts of office would be to ban tobacco cultivation. As a consumer of it I would suffer right along with everyone else.
I would hope other types of cultivation would be decriminalized as a trade-off...
Aye with the same rules as booze. Same cultivation rules as tobacco however, no corporate or private production for sale. You want it, grow it, but it will be a cottage industry at most.
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@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
"Vote @MattSpeller 2016.... or he'll knock the cigrits outta ya. Friggin rights, bud!
Ironically one of my first acts of office would be to ban tobacco cultivation. As a consumer of it I would suffer right along with everyone else.
I would hope other types of cultivation would be decriminalized as a trade-off...
Aye with the same rules as booze. Same cultivation rules as tobacco however, no corporate or private production for sale. You want it, grow it, but it will be a cottage industry at most.
That is all I ask. Poppies fall under this rule too, right?
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
"Vote @MattSpeller 2016.... or he'll knock the cigrits outta ya. Friggin rights, bud!
Ironically one of my first acts of office would be to ban tobacco cultivation. As a consumer of it I would suffer right along with everyone else.
I would hope other types of cultivation would be decriminalized as a trade-off...
Aye with the same rules as booze. Same cultivation rules as tobacco however, no corporate or private production for sale. You want it, grow it, but it will be a cottage industry at most.
That is all I ask. Poppies fall under this rule too, right?
Yes
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@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
"Vote @MattSpeller 2016.... or he'll knock the cigrits outta ya. Friggin rights, bud!
Ironically one of my first acts of office would be to ban tobacco cultivation. As a consumer of it I would suffer right along with everyone else.
I would hope other types of cultivation would be decriminalized as a trade-off...
Aye with the same rules as booze. Same cultivation rules as tobacco however, no corporate or private production for sale. You want it, grow it, but it will be a cottage industry at most.
Tuica!!
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Basic income would indeed be an improvement in many ways. I believe/hope it should/will come with a shift in our culture towards a more open and enlightened society. Unfortunately change takes a long time. We are a stubborn species.
And vengeful. A lot of the people who work will want the people who choose not to not to get anything. That's the problem. You have to accept that the workers take care of the non-workers. But because working is purely optional, hopefully that fixes a lot.
How do we move towards this though? Many countries (especially the ones I care about most, Canada/USA) have trashed their education systems. I would begin there and build that back as a foundational block of society.
It's a big project and it makes me want to run for office.
Matt Speller 2016. It's not too late to announce yourself independant
Being born in Canada might make it too late for him, though.
There were so many claims that President Obama wasn't born in this country. I think Matt could get away with it. What would @MattSpeller 's slogan be?
"Vote @MattSpeller 2016.... or he'll knock the cigrits outta ya. Friggin rights, bud!
Ironically one of my first acts of office would be to ban tobacco cultivation. As a consumer of it I would suffer right along with everyone else.
I would hope other types of cultivation would be decriminalized as a trade-off...
Aye with the same rules as booze. Same cultivation rules as tobacco however, no corporate or private production for sale. You want it, grow it, but it will be a cottage industry at most.
Tuica!!
Tuaca???
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