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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @coliver
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      @coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

      @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

      I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.

      He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.

      Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.

      And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

        @coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

        @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

        I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.

        He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.

        Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.

        And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.

        For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @stacksofplates
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          @johnhooks said

          For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

          The new version of XS (Dundee) uses 7.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said

            And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.

            That was your point, yes.

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            • Deleted74295D
              Deleted74295 Banned
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              Ok that's embarrassing.

              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1592415-dell-discontinued-support-for-citrix-xenserver

              A convo was already happening about it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                @johnhooks said

                For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

                The new version of XS (Dundee) uses 7.

                Yeah, looking forward to that. Hoping that QCOW is in there, too.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Deleted74295
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                  @Breffni-Potter This is why you should follow me on SW.... lol

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                    @johnhooks said

                    For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

                    The new version of XS (Dundee) uses 7.

                    Ah didn't realize that. It's not packaged for RHEL any more. That's good though.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                      @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                      @coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                      @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                      I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.

                      He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.

                      Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.

                      And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.

                      For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

                      RHEL 6 will be supported for a very long time and 7 for a super long time. I don't see much risk there.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @coliver
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                        @coliver said

                        Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.

                        Hardware management while the server is running, made easy.

                        We discussed this a lot in my failing array thread.

                        iDrac leaves a lot to be desired, though @scottalanmiller found a waya round that with ... text commands!

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said

                          Yeah, looking forward to that. Hoping that QCOW is in there, too.

                          I've been following the posts on the betas. Looks like a lot of nice stuff is on its way. (And probably soon.)

                          Probably the day after I get my 6.5 system finished.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                            @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                            @coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                            @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                            I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.

                            He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.

                            Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.

                            And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.

                            For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

                            RHEL 6 will be supported for a very long time and 7 for a super long time. I don't see much risk there.

                            Not that much longer. Phase 2 ends next year and complete EOL is 2020.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                              @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                              @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                              @coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                              @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                              I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.

                              He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.

                              Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.

                              And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.

                              For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

                              RHEL 6 will be supported for a very long time and 7 for a super long time. I don't see much risk there.

                              Not that much longer. Phase 2 ends next year and complete EOL is 2020.

                              But don't we expect Dundee in months? Not.. you know, half a decade?

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                @coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.

                                He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.

                                Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.

                                And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.

                                For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

                                RHEL 6 will be supported for a very long time and 7 for a super long time. I don't see much risk there.

                                Not that much longer. Phase 2 ends next year and complete EOL is 2020.

                                But don't we expect Dundee in months? Not.. you know, half a decade?

                                Not sure of their timeline. I was just making a point that 6 won't have support for "a very long time." 3 1/2 years is not a half a decade.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                  @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                  @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                  @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                  @coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                  @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                  I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.

                                  He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.

                                  Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.

                                  And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.

                                  For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

                                  RHEL 6 will be supported for a very long time and 7 for a super long time. I don't see much risk there.

                                  Not that much longer. Phase 2 ends next year and complete EOL is 2020.

                                  But don't we expect Dundee in months? Not.. you know, half a decade?

                                  Not sure of their timeline. I was just making a point that 6 won't have support for "a very long time." 3 1/2 years is not a half a decade.

                                  Looks to be over four years...

                                  0_1462454651963_69bbe160b5b04a55bb8bb0a945696acf.png

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                    @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                    @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                    @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                    @coliver said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                    @BRRABill said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                    I mentioned this to @scottalanmiller when I was considering moving back to Hyper-V.

                                    He didn't seem to think direct support of XS by OMSA was a big deal, so hopefully he'll chime in and comment.

                                    Why would this be a big deal? You've already got a few free management platforms for XS. From my understanding, I've never used it, OSMA is designed to manage the underlying hardware.

                                    And more importantly, the support needs to only exist for RHEL, not XenServer.

                                    For now. Once support for 6 is gone, what's XS going to do?

                                    RHEL 6 will be supported for a very long time and 7 for a super long time. I don't see much risk there.

                                    Not that much longer. Phase 2 ends next year and complete EOL is 2020.

                                    But don't we expect Dundee in months? Not.. you know, half a decade?

                                    Not sure of their timeline. I was just making a point that 6 won't have support for "a very long time." 3 1/2 years is not a half a decade.

                                    Looks to be over four years...

                                    Idk where that graph came from but this is from Red Hat's site. https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      November 30, 2020 on your chart matches me chart and is 4.5 years away.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                        November 30, 2020 on your chart matches me chart and is 4.5 years away.

                                        Ya I missed the November part. I was counting exclusively.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Is my math wrong? 2020:11 - 2016:5 = 4years and 6 months yet of support? That's 4.5 years on the nose.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                            @johnhooks said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Dell dropping Citrix XenServer as a supported Product:

                                            November 30, 2020 on your chart matches me chart and is 4.5 years away.

                                            Ya I missed the November part. I was counting exclusively.

                                            Ah ha. My chart showed 2020, just the very end of it 🙂

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