Install Microsoft Volume Licence application with Office 365
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@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
Interesting - I didn't know there was an Office 365 version of Office that didn't include Access.
I don't think my personal office 365 business premium has it
Edit: checked it does not.
What do you know - I just checked mine, you're right.
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Actually I just looked at my install folder, and you don't get a .msi from that. But you can install office without having to go through the portal. Will it fix your click to run install thing? I'm not sure. I just used that tool when I didn't want to log in to the portal manually on every machine I wanted to put office on. I was searching for a .msi and never found it.
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There isnt a MSI with any office 365 installations, all click-to-run. The deployment tool just sets up a local repository for click-to-run files and you make a script that accesses them.
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So it's impossible to install current, open licence standalone versions of standard Microsoft products if you are an Office 365 Business Premium customer? If you want Access you have to upgrade to the E3 plan at double the cost, or install an older version.That's nuts.
Is the retail versions of Office products click and run, that would be a possible alternative (but still a massive pita)?
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@Carnival-Boy said:
If you want Access you have to upgrade to the E3 plan at double the cost, or install an older version.That's nuts.
Maybe not "can't" but let's call it "very technically encouraged."
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@Carnival-Boy said:
So it's impossible to install current, open licence standalone versions of standard Microsoft products if you are an Office 365 Business Premium customer? If you want Access you have to upgrade to the E3 plan at double the cost, or install an older version.That's nuts.
Is the retail versions of Office products click and run, that would be a possible alternative (but still a massive pita)?
I don't know if you can buy a retail version that it's just a code any more. That started a long time ago with Office 2010. My client bought key-code cards. All they received was a code, then you download click-to-run.
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Logged a call with Microsoft and they confirmed my worst fears - Open Licence version of Microsoft standalone products cannot be used with O365. It sucks.
Basically, if you are a Business Premium customer you cannot use Access, end of. Only E3 or ProPlus customers can use it.
(although I suspect the retail version will run, as that is click-to-run as Dash indicates).
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Wow, I wonder if that violates an EU anti-trust law or similar... selling software that is designed to not work on the same machine to force either double buying the application or double buying the OS. Either way, that sounds like anti-trust to me. It might be okay because it is "all one application", that might cause an exception. But I doubt it. That's extremely fishy to have two sales channels designed to conflict and block each other.
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You make it sound like they did it on purpose?
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@Dashrender said:
You make it sound like they did it on purpose?
No, I just point out that they make it sound like they are doing it on purpose. Don't blame the messenger.
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I don't see how they could not have done it on purpose? AFAIK, it was ok with Office 2013 which is also click-to-run, so this is something they must have deliberately introduced with 2016, for whatever reason.
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Looks to be by design
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You should be able to uninstall Click to run then use a volume key to install the same level of office you have with 365 as a MSI and then install the standalone MSI for access.
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That sounds like a great idea, although presumably I'd need to purchase a single volume licence for Office Standard edition.
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Here's a thought.
on your business premium, drop it down to the non local office app version, then for $12/month add a license for O365 Pro Plus.
Then you're back to having everything in a single package for install/management, etc.
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That wouldn't be worth it. Business Essentials is £3.10 and ProPlus is £10.10 in the UK. So that would be £13.20 versus £14.70 for E3. I currently pay a very reasonable £7.80 for Business Premium.
I will try Jason's idea though. Click-to-run is unpleasant anyway, so switching everything to traditional volume licence Windows install sounds awesome.
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My concern is that O365 is not the same version of Office as the volume licence. Volume licence is "Office Standard 2016" whereas O365 is "Office 365 Business". Effectively the same product, but technically different? Would I be breaking the licence by using "Office Standard" volume licence media to install "Office 365 Business?
I suspect I would.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
My concern is that O365 is not the same version of Office as the volume licence. Volume licence is "Office Standard 2016" whereas O365 is "Office 365 Business". Effectively the same product, but technically different? Would I be breaking the licence by using "Office Standard" volume licence media to install "Office 365 Business?
I suspect I would.
I agree with you, I think you would be.
Also, where would you get a Key to use with the installation media?If you buy a single VL (assuming you already have an open license/open value agreement in place) then you just buy it and be done.
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huh - can you return the volume license Access you bought and buy FFP? FFP, as we previously discussed, should be click to run just like O365. That would possibly be another way around it.
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You mean FPP. Yeah, I think that would work, as previously mentioned, but FPP sucks if you have more than about 10 users.
