What Are You Doing Right Now
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@wirestyle22 most jobs are that way. You'll either find a good situation where you are appreciated, or you will eventually outgrow the need to go above and beyond for mediocre employers. Obviously, you want the former, not the latter.
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@NattNatt said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@NattNatt said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Inherited
Spaghetti for lunch I see
Yeah but because it isn't labeled I couldn't tell you where the noodles go
I know that feeling...cable tracers outside of working hours...
I work on the weekends all the time only getting paid for 40 hours. I get my evaluation done and my average is a 4 out of 5 (basically the highest they will ever give) except they say I took 6 sick days--5 of which were cardiologist visits for genetic testing and I'm "not reliable enough". The only day I legitimately had a non-scheduled day off was because the office policy is to not come in sick.
I'm like Wat.
You'd think they would be understanding considering all I do for this company. Smh. It makes me not want to go above and beyond. I get no credit for anything I do only attitude. Then I get annoyed that nothing is up to my standards. Maybe my expectations are too high. Idk.
wow...that's bad dude...that's worse than my last job, and I left that because of it...if they don't even recognise your efforts, then leave while you still can!
I'm just educating myself as hard as I can and then I'll start applying. I have confidence issues with my knowledge but only for the interview. I know I can do any job. I went in as a anaesthesia technician in the operating room of a major hospital for instance. I didn't know anything starting that job.
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@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Note: it's not exactly a requirement but I can't realistically run this place without working weekends sometimes--to my standards. Even with me doing this I'm at the mercy of the executive director and I can't make any changes or do anything but they expect it to improve somehow.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Keep at it, work hard, and don't let your current situation dull your ass kicking attitude.
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@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Keep at it, work hard, and don't let your current situation dull your ass kicking attitude.
I'm trying to fight the good fight. It's easier some days than others. I'm a very motivated person though and I am constantly reading and expanding my knowledge. I'll keep you guys updated when I end up leaving here though. It'll be a happy day.
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@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Keep at it, work hard, and don't let your current situation dull your ass kicking attitude.
actually I disagree - if you feel stifled like this, you should leave, and leave ASAP. Don't allow your attitude to become damaged by a bad environment.
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@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Keep at it, work hard, and don't let your current situation dull your ass kicking attitude.
actually I disagree - if you feel stifled like this, you should leave, and leave ASAP. Don't allow your attitude to become damaged by a bad environment.
I'm with @Dashrender the moment you feel this way about your job, find a way out. Don't burn bridges, but staying is just throwing your happiness and your career opportunities away.
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@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Keep at it, work hard, and don't let your current situation dull your ass kicking attitude.
actually I disagree - if you feel stifled like this, you should leave, and leave ASAP. Don't allow your attitude to become damaged by a bad environment.
Once I feel strong in my knowledge I definitely will. I will also help them to find someone more suited to this environment. I'm not a grudge holder at all.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Keep at it, work hard, and don't let your current situation dull your ass kicking attitude.
actually I disagree - if you feel stifled like this, you should leave, and leave ASAP. Don't allow your attitude to become damaged by a bad environment.
I'm with @Dashrender the moment you feel this way about your job, find a way out. Don't burn bridges, but staying is just throwing your happiness and your career opportunities away.
I can see both sides of it. My happiness doesn't come from my job but I have a lot of great parts of my life. When I go home my job doesn't influence me. I'm good at compartmentalizing.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Keep at it, work hard, and don't let your current situation dull your ass kicking attitude.
actually I disagree - if you feel stifled like this, you should leave, and leave ASAP. Don't allow your attitude to become damaged by a bad environment.
Once I feel strong in my knowledge I definitely will. I will also help them to find someone more suited to this environment. I'm not a grudge holder at all.
I hate to say that's to late. Leave now while you still like learning. Many people "once they feel strong in knowledge" kinda stop growing/learning. Start looking now. Who knows you might find something tomorrow you love, then again it might take a year, but you should start now.
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@wirestyle22 said:
Once I feel strong in my knowledge I definitely will. I will also help them to find someone more suited to this environment. I'm not a grudge holder at all.
Don't make arbitrary reasons for lingering. That's a common mistake. The longer you stay, the harder it is to leave and the fewer options to do so exist.
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@wirestyle22 said:
I can see both sides of it. My happiness doesn't come from my job but I have a lot of great parts of my life. When I go home my job doesn't influence me. I'm good at compartmentalizing.
No matter how much you compartmentalize, your job is 25% - 40% of your life. It just is. If it isn't making you happy, it's ruining your life.
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@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Keep at it, work hard, and don't let your current situation dull your ass kicking attitude.
actually I disagree - if you feel stifled like this, you should leave, and leave ASAP. Don't allow your attitude to become damaged by a bad environment.
Once I feel strong in my knowledge I definitely will. I will also help them to find someone more suited to this environment. I'm not a grudge holder at all.
I hate to say that's to late. Leave now while you still like learning. Many people "once they feel strong in knowledge" kinda stop growing/learning. Start looking now. Who knows you might find something tomorrow you love, then again it might take a year, but you should start now.
And a new job should be a challenge, not a place to relax because you already know everything.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Why are you working weekends?
When I was younger I worked weekends because I was poor, the things I wanted to cost money, and I could make extra money working the weekends.. now, that's simply not the case.
And sure, while my job allows some flex time to work weekends, it's not a normal requirement of my job.
Is it of yours?
I go above and beyond. If I see a problem I try to fix it even if it isn't a benefit to me. My work ethic isn't appreciated though unfortunately. Salary is like indentured servitude.
Keep at it, work hard, and don't let your current situation dull your ass kicking attitude.
actually I disagree - if you feel stifled like this, you should leave, and leave ASAP. Don't allow your attitude to become damaged by a bad environment.
Once I feel strong in my knowledge I definitely will. I will also help them to find someone more suited to this environment. I'm not a grudge holder at all.
I hate to say that's to late. Leave now while you still like learning. Many people "once they feel strong in knowledge" kinda stop growing/learning. Start looking now. Who knows you might find something tomorrow you love, then again it might take a year, but you should start now.
And a new job should be a challenge, not a place to relax because you already know everything.
Those are valid points. My reality is that there are gaps in my knowledge. I didn't go to a traditional school or anything like that. I tried to interview with CommVault and they started asking me specific CMD line commands I never use and host file editing, which I replied with "The only thing I really edit the host file for is to point to a different DNS and I've done that maybe one time in my life". They never called me back and basically stopped the interview there. I got pretty far with ABC like I said but that was more of a friendly conversation and ultimately they wanted someone with a lot of UNIX experience, which I basically have none. These experiences have kind of shaped my opinion of my knowledge.
This isn't me trying to create a pity party though either. I'm just trying to be honest with you and with myself.
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@wirestyle22 said:
Those are valid points. My reality is that there are gaps in my knowledge. I didn't go to a traditional school or anything like that.
Few have. Traditional school is worthless for IT. It's a negative... takes time away from the learning that you need to do. You can leverage it if you have it, but the time and effort come at a huge cost that can never really be overcome.
Traditional school creates gaps, it doesn't fill them. This sounds like you are looking for excuses rather than looking for opportunities.
[Tough Love]
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Those are valid points. My reality is that there are gaps in my knowledge. I didn't go to a traditional school or anything like that.
Few have. Traditional school is worthless for IT. It's a negative... takes time away from the learning that you need to do. You can leverage it if you have it, but the time and effort come at a huge cost that can never really be overcome.
Traditional school creates gaps, it doesn't fill them. This sounds like you are looking for excuses rather than looking for opportunities.
[Tough Love]
Tough love appreciated. Not trying to make excuses I'm just explaining. I'll apply and see what happens. Worst case scenario I gain valuable experience.
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@wirestyle22 said:
I tried to interview with CommVault and they started asking me specific CMD line commands I never use and host file editing, which I replied with "The only thing I really edit the host file for is to point to a different DNS and I've done that maybe one time in my life". They never called me back and basically stopped the interview there. I got pretty far with ABC like I said but that was more of a friendly conversation and ultimately they wanted someone with a lot of UNIX experience, which I basically have none. These experiences have kind of shaped my opinion of my knowledge.
So your takeaway here should be...
- Start learning PowerShell and if you get interviewed on CMD you throw your head back and laugh, mumble something about aging DOS era skills and do the thing that they want in PS.
- Start taking my UNIX admin course and do all of the stuff along with us as we do it. Get Linux running at home and get used to it.
- Keep interviewing and learning where you are weak and maybe get lucky when you find something.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
I tried to interview with CommVault and they started asking me specific CMD line commands I never use and host file editing, which I replied with "The only thing I really edit the host file for is to point to a different DNS and I've done that maybe one time in my life". They never called me back and basically stopped the interview there. I got pretty far with ABC like I said but that was more of a friendly conversation and ultimately they wanted someone with a lot of UNIX experience, which I basically have none. These experiences have kind of shaped my opinion of my knowledge.
So your takeaway here should be...
- Start learning PowerShell and if you get interviewed on CMD you throw your head back and laugh, mumble something about aging DOS era skills and do the thing that they want in PS.
- Start taking my UNIX admin course and do all of the stuff along with us as we do it. Get Linux running at home and get used to it.
- Keep interviewing and learning where you are weak and maybe get lucky when you find something.
Agreed. Appreciate the advice.
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@wirestyle22 said:
Tough love appreciated. Not trying to make excuses I'm just explaining. I'll apply and see what happens. Worst case scenario I gain valuable experience.
I spent a huge portion of my career interviewing two to five times a week. You get good at it. Eventually it feels like cheating. I interview way above my skill level. I'm relaxed, confident, conversational. I can generally steer interviewers as I need to make a point. I can turn weakness into strength.
Getting interviewing to a point where you are napping between people is a good thing
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Tough love appreciated. Not trying to make excuses I'm just explaining. I'll apply and see what happens. Worst case scenario I gain valuable experience.
I spent a huge portion of my career interviewing two to five times a week. You get good at it. Eventually it feels like cheating. I interview way above my skill level. I'm relaxed, confident, conversational. I can generally steer interviewers as I need to make a point. I can turn weakness into strength.
Getting interviewing to a point where you are napping between people is a good thing
I'll get there
