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    Additional DC not functioning if the Primary DC is down !!

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      You also have some term confusion here.

      There is no more PDC. Sure there is a FSMO role called PDC emulator, but it's just that - an emulator.

      Assuming your other domain controller is Windows 2000 or newer, both DCs are equal in the eyes of the domain.
      It's better to call them old DC and new DC or DC1 and DC2.. you pick a name that is meaningful for you.

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      • coliverC
        coliver
        last edited by

        What version of AD/Windows Server are you running?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
          last edited by

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @Dashrender said:

          Where are you running active directory users and computers (ADUC) from when you get the error?
          Are you getting the error on the new AD box you made?

          yes i get the error in the second BOX (ADC)

          OK, in the network adapter settings, what are the DNS entries?

          for the sake of your testing, you should set the primary DNS to the IP of that second ADC.

          but let us suppose the PDC is down, how the ADC see it ??

          Windows will eventually time out on the primary DNS and switch over to using the secondary DNS that you list.

          So if you want, you can have the Primary point to your old Domain Controller, and have the secondary DNS point to your new Domain Controller. It should still work, though you might have some lag until the switch takes place internally.

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            You also have some term confusion here.

            There is no more PDC. Sure there is a FSMO role called PDC emulator, but it's just that - an emulator.

            Assuming your other domain controller is Windows 2000 or newer, both DCs are equal in the eyes of the domain.
            It's better to call them old DC and new DC or DC1 and DC2.. you pick a name that is meaningful for you.

            sorry i mean by PDC: primary DC

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said:

              What version of AD/Windows Server are you running?

              both are windows server 2008 entreprise R2

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
                last edited by

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                @Dashrender said:

                You also have some term confusion here.

                There is no more PDC. Sure there is a FSMO role called PDC emulator, but it's just that - an emulator.

                Assuming your other domain controller is Windows 2000 or newer, both DCs are equal in the eyes of the domain.
                It's better to call them old DC and new DC or DC1 and DC2.. you pick a name that is meaningful for you.

                sorry i mean by PDC: primary DC

                that's still a misnomer - there is nothing really primary about it. it's just the first. And sure it holds the FSMO roles, but those can be moved at will, and even seized if the need arose.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @coliver said:

                  What version of AD/Windows Server are you running?

                  both are windows server 2008 entreprise R2

                  Wow - hefty licenses there.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    @IT-ADMIN Right-click Active Directory Users and Computers and click Change Domain Controller.

                    there is nothing called Change Domain Controller. in the submenu :

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by Dashrender

                      you launch it first, then change it at the top inside ADUC.

                      0_1455045326587_2016-02-09 13_14_04-Active Directory Users and Computers.png

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        you launch it first, then change it at the top inside ADUC.

                        0_1455045326587_2016-02-09 13_14_04-Active Directory Users and Computers.png

                        great, i can see it now but i do not know what to type in :

                        0_1455045430627_2016-02-09_221625.png

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          type in the name or IP of the new DC.

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            i think since the OK button is not activated, the DC2 is not seeing itself as a DC

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Did you run DCPromo on the new Domain Controller so that it actually became a DC?

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                With the working DC online, when you go to ADUC and look under the Domain Controllers OU, do you see both servers?

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                                • IT-ADMINI
                                  IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Did you run DCPromo on the new Domain Controller so that it actually became a DC?

                                  yeah off course, and choose it to be global catalog and DNS

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                                  • IT-ADMINI
                                    IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    With the working DC online, when you go to ADUC and look under the Domain Controllers OU, do you see both servers?

                                    yeah in DC1, i can see in both DC in domain controllers OU

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN
                                      last edited by IT-ADMIN

                                      now the DC2 is offline and i set a static IP to it and set DNS to point to himself (because it is offline)
                                      after i enter his ip, it shows online but giving me error message

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                                      • IT-ADMINI
                                        IT-ADMIN @IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          With the working DC online, when you go to ADUC and look under the Domain Controllers OU, do you see both servers?

                                          yeah in DC1, i can see in both DC in domain controllers OU

                                          Can you switch to DC2 when DC1 is online?

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by JaredBusch

                                            The preferred DNS server of the network card in your domain controllers should always point to themselves. Well, assuming that you are using standard Windows DNS.

                                            The alternate should then be the other DC.

                                            On DC 1
                                            DNS Preferred: 127.0.0.1
                                            DNS Alternate: 192.168.1.XX <- IP of DC2

                                            On DC 2
                                            DNS Preferred: 127.0.0.1
                                            DNS Alternate: 192.168.1.XX <- IP of DC1

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