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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
      last edited by Dashrender

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      @Dashrender said:

      Where are you running active directory users and computers (ADUC) from when you get the error?
      Are you getting the error on the new AD box you made?

      yes i get the error in the second BOX (ADC)

      OK, in the network adapter settings, what are the DNS entries?

      for the sake of your testing, you should set the primary DNS to the IP of that second ADC.

      Then if you still get errors, do what Coliver suggested and make sure the ADUC is pointing to the new DC, because as he mentioned, it doesn't always move over automatically.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN @coliver
        last edited by

        @coliver said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        is it normal for the ADC not to work if it is offline and do not have FSMO or is it only me who have this issue ???!!!

        Have you tried pointing ADUC at the other DC? Sometimes it becomes locked on one and you need to manually change it.

        do you mean that ADUC in the ADC still locked with the PDC?? if yes how i can change to read from the ADC database ??

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        • coliverC
          coliver @IT-ADMIN
          last edited by

          @IT-ADMIN Right-click Active Directory Users and Computers and click Change Domain Controller.

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            @Dashrender said:

            Where are you running active directory users and computers (ADUC) from when you get the error?
            Are you getting the error on the new AD box you made?

            yes i get the error in the second BOX (ADC)

            OK, in the network adapter settings, what are the DNS entries?

            for the sake of your testing, you should set the primary DNS to the IP of that second ADC.

            but let us suppose the PDC is down, how the ADC see it ??

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              You also have some term confusion here.

              There is no more PDC. Sure there is a FSMO role called PDC emulator, but it's just that - an emulator.

              Assuming your other domain controller is Windows 2000 or newer, both DCs are equal in the eyes of the domain.
              It's better to call them old DC and new DC or DC1 and DC2.. you pick a name that is meaningful for you.

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              • coliverC
                coliver
                last edited by

                What version of AD/Windows Server are you running?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Where are you running active directory users and computers (ADUC) from when you get the error?
                  Are you getting the error on the new AD box you made?

                  yes i get the error in the second BOX (ADC)

                  OK, in the network adapter settings, what are the DNS entries?

                  for the sake of your testing, you should set the primary DNS to the IP of that second ADC.

                  but let us suppose the PDC is down, how the ADC see it ??

                  Windows will eventually time out on the primary DNS and switch over to using the secondary DNS that you list.

                  So if you want, you can have the Primary point to your old Domain Controller, and have the secondary DNS point to your new Domain Controller. It should still work, though you might have some lag until the switch takes place internally.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    You also have some term confusion here.

                    There is no more PDC. Sure there is a FSMO role called PDC emulator, but it's just that - an emulator.

                    Assuming your other domain controller is Windows 2000 or newer, both DCs are equal in the eyes of the domain.
                    It's better to call them old DC and new DC or DC1 and DC2.. you pick a name that is meaningful for you.

                    sorry i mean by PDC: primary DC

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said:

                      What version of AD/Windows Server are you running?

                      both are windows server 2008 entreprise R2

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        You also have some term confusion here.

                        There is no more PDC. Sure there is a FSMO role called PDC emulator, but it's just that - an emulator.

                        Assuming your other domain controller is Windows 2000 or newer, both DCs are equal in the eyes of the domain.
                        It's better to call them old DC and new DC or DC1 and DC2.. you pick a name that is meaningful for you.

                        sorry i mean by PDC: primary DC

                        that's still a misnomer - there is nothing really primary about it. it's just the first. And sure it holds the FSMO roles, but those can be moved at will, and even seized if the need arose.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
                          last edited by

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @coliver said:

                          What version of AD/Windows Server are you running?

                          both are windows server 2008 entreprise R2

                          Wow - hefty licenses there.

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said:

                            @IT-ADMIN Right-click Active Directory Users and Computers and click Change Domain Controller.

                            there is nothing called Change Domain Controller. in the submenu :

                            0_1455045225008_2016-02-09_220941.png

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by Dashrender

                              you launch it first, then change it at the top inside ADUC.

                              0_1455045326587_2016-02-09 13_14_04-Active Directory Users and Computers.png

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                you launch it first, then change it at the top inside ADUC.

                                0_1455045326587_2016-02-09 13_14_04-Active Directory Users and Computers.png

                                great, i can see it now but i do not know what to type in :

                                0_1455045430627_2016-02-09_221625.png

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  type in the name or IP of the new DC.

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                                  • IT-ADMINI
                                    IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    i think since the OK button is not activated, the DC2 is not seeing itself as a DC

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      Did you run DCPromo on the new Domain Controller so that it actually became a DC?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        With the working DC online, when you go to ADUC and look under the Domain Controllers OU, do you see both servers?

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                                        • IT-ADMINI
                                          IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          Did you run DCPromo on the new Domain Controller so that it actually became a DC?

                                          yeah off course, and choose it to be global catalog and DNS

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            With the working DC online, when you go to ADUC and look under the Domain Controllers OU, do you see both servers?

                                            yeah in DC1, i can see in both DC in domain controllers OU

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