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@coliver said:
Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.
Who knows they burned any bridges with iTunes and customers who liked music or wanted things to work a decade ago.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I feel like we have the onion effect... one bad decision leading to another. End users can have a super simple experience, Chromebooks and Mint attest to that, but choosing weird DRM software, choosing to be dependent on a bizarre and awful locally installed application for no reason (and one from a third party that doesn't work well at all with the chosen platform), using an OS based on name and not on it meeting their needs.... start unravelling it and it becomes a small bad decision or lack of foresight leading to a dependency on something poor and it just snowballs and pretty soon tons of money and effort that no one can trace back as to why the system doesn't "just work" like it should.
You're absolutely right - the fly in this ointment is a lot of people I run into bought into iTunes nearly a decade ago. As such they are pretty entrenched and don't want to move somewhere else.
The first thing that comes to mind is a person who own something like 500+ CDs and he had ripped them all into iTunes (which at the time had DRM).
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.
Who knows they burned any bridges with iTunes and customers who liked music or wanted things to work a decade ago.
Uh? What? Amazon doesn't do iTunes... Amazon has a fairly extensive media marketplace and tons of DRM free music (I just looked).
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@scottalanmiller said:
Why would that EVER lead you to iTunes? That makes zero sense to me. I want that too and iTunes does not do that for me. Amazon, however, does. So, unless there is something huge that I don't understand, this is misconceptions leading to bad decisions. Doesn't iTunes stop that, rather than fixing it?
Right now Apple Music is the best deal for families. $15 for up to 6 people. Google Play is similar, but can only be set up using an Android device. So for families like mine with all Apple devices, if we want Apple Music, we have to use iTunes to get it. Unless there is some other way I do not know about.
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@Dashrender said:
You're absolutely right - the fly in this ointment is a lot of people I run into bought into iTunes nearly a decade ago. As such they are pretty entrenched and don't want to move somewhere else.
Back when it was DRM and useless. I cannot believe they got a single customer, it makes me sad for humanity. The worst music service the world has ever known.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Why would that EVER lead you to iTunes? That makes zero sense to me. I want that too and iTunes does not do that for me. Amazon, however, does. So, unless there is something huge that I don't understand, this is misconceptions leading to bad decisions. Doesn't iTunes stop that, rather than fixing it?
Right now Apple Music is the best deal for families. $15 for up to 6 people. Google Play is similar, but can only be set up using an Android device. So for families like mine with all Apple devices, if we want Apple Music, we have to use iTunes to get it. Unless there is some other way I do not know about.
What kind of deal is that? I mean... what do you get? What are you paying for?
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Why would that EVER lead you to iTunes? That makes zero sense to me. I want that too and iTunes does not do that for me. Amazon, however, does. So, unless there is something huge that I don't understand, this is misconceptions leading to bad decisions. Doesn't iTunes stop that, rather than fixing it?
Right now Apple Music is the best deal for families. $15 for up to 6 people. Google Play is similar, but can only be set up using an Android device. So for families like mine with all Apple devices, if we want Apple Music, we have to use iTunes to get it. Unless there is some other way I do not know about.
Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.
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@scottalanmiller said:
What kind of deal is that? I mean... what do you get? What are you paying for?
Streaming music for up to 6 people in your family.
I love streaming music.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.
Who knows they burned any bridges with iTunes and customers who liked music or wanted things to work a decade ago.
Uh? What? Amazon doesn't do iTunes... Amazon has a fairly extensive media marketplace and tons of DRM free music (I just looked).
Sorry, for some reason I thought that you had said Apple.
Amazon has ALWAYS been DRM free, from day one. It's the only sensible music service. I can't believe people even talk about anyone else. Amazon's music is so good I've never seen competition for it. AND they let you upload your music, so it is the only one that meets the stated requirements of everything in one place because it is the only one that lets you merge onto it. And it works with every device, too. And you can just download your music, so literally works everywhere. You own the music, none of these weird issues that every other service has.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
What kind of deal is that? I mean... what do you get? What are you paying for?
Streaming music for up to 6 people in your family.
I love streaming music.
Steaming what music? I get streaming from Amazon for free to unlimited devices, and unlimited kinds of devices.
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@coliver said:
Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.
Nowhere near the same library size. I think it is something like 1 million versus 30 million.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Can't you play music you've purchased in the iTunes store through the web interface?
why do you need a local copy? Just stream?What is this web interface you speak of?
Looks like I have to stand corrected - there isn't one. that sucks!
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@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Can't you play music you've purchased in the iTunes store through the web interface?
why do you need a local copy? Just stream?What is this web interface you speak of?
Looks like I have to stand corrected - there isn't one. that sucks!
Seriously, who would use Apple for music? It's like oil and water.
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@BRRABill said:
@coliver said:
Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.
Nowhere near the same library size. I think it is something like 1 million versus 30 million.
Are you comparing only thee paid library from one and the free from the other?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Are you comparing only thee paid library from one and the free from the other?
Yes, because the end goal is to get the music I want, and I am willing to pay for it.
I wish Amazon had a paid service similar to Apple Music/Google Play/Rhapsody.
It would be my new love.
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I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.
Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.
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@BRRABill said:
@coliver said:
Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.
Nowhere near the same library size. I think it is something like 1 million versus 30 million.
Is that right?
With Apple streaming you get access to 30 Million and with Amazon Prime you only get access to 1 Million?
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@BRRABill said:
I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.
Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.
I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
If they don't have existing Windows experience then ANY logic for using Windows now has to evaporate (except for maybe gaming.) But even coming from Windows, Mint is generally easier.
Apparently they have been using Windows for years, but through AOL or something.
I think a good pop-up blocker as @RojoLoco suggested would be key here.
And education, as I mentioned.
After reading that, all I could think of was....
All you can do is educate, educate, educate.
