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    • Minion QueenM
      Minion Queen
      last edited by

      oh yeah that's a good reason to get rid of it. I do not trust LMI at all.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Alex Sage
        last edited by

        @anonymous said:

        @JaredBusch Why do you want to replace it?

        Because I do not trust their new owners. Simple as that.

        I have been a LastPass Premium subscriber since 2009 when I got a smart phone.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          While I don't trust LMI to leave the free product free - I have no reason not to trust their paid product - other than they might increase the price.

          I consider this more or less a non issue, since I'm not a free user.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            interesting... FireFox had an update to LP waiting for me to restart the browser...

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            • A
              Alex Sage @Dashrender
              last edited by Alex Sage

              @Dashrender Yup, version 4 was just released 😄

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                While I don't trust LMI to leave the free product free - I have no reason not to trust their paid product - other than they might increase the price.

                I consider this more or less a non issue, since I'm not a free user.

                I don't trust their integrity. And that, simply, means I can't trust them. It's not about free being free.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  I consider this more or less a non issue, since I'm not a free user.

                  I don't understand how that makes a difference. If you can't trust them, you can't trust them. It's about trusting that they stick to their agreements

                  Like their agreements not to decrypt your data, they agreement to take backups, their agreement to your privacy, etc.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    I consider this more or less a non issue, since I'm not a free user.

                    I don't understand how that makes a difference. If you can't trust them, you can't trust them. It's about trusting that they stick to their agreements

                    Like their agreements not to decrypt your data, they agreement to take backups, their agreement to your privacy, etc.

                    I don't consider this situation on par with Lenovo. Did they tell us LMI would be free forever, then take it back? yeah. Does that rise to the level of Lenovo's breaking of the public trust, not in my mind.

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                    • NicN
                      Nic
                      last edited by

                      El Reg just did a piece on the new changes:

                      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/05/lastpass_revamp/

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        I consider this more or less a non issue, since I'm not a free user.

                        I don't understand how that makes a difference. If you can't trust them, you can't trust them. It's about trusting that they stick to their agreements

                        Like their agreements not to decrypt your data, they agreement to take backups, their agreement to your privacy, etc.

                        I don't consider this situation on par with Lenovo. Did they tell us LMI would be free forever, then take it back? yeah. Does that rise to the level of Lenovo's breaking of the public trust, not in my mind.

                        Why would it have to even approach the same level? Loss of trust is loss of trust. LMI, every day, decides to keep breaking the trust. Is it the same as having tried to steal data? Not at all. Can we trust them? Clearly not. No one suggested a similar level and I'm unclear why you feel it would need to be that bad before you would not hand over your passwords to someone that lies to you and treats you badly.

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                        • W
                          WingCreative
                          last edited by

                          I switched over to Dashlane after LastPass' LMI acquisition and have been evaluating them since. I really like their interface and how easy it is to use, though having their program start with Windows took getting used to.

                          They provide easy ways to import data from other password managers - exporting my LastPass passwords was easy, and there's an option to import KeePass data as well which I have yet to try. They also have apps for iOS and Android so you can access your passwords on mobile if you'd like. Their browser plugins also seem to be a little more seamless than LastPass' IMO.

                          I ended up buying Dashlane Premium with no regrets so far. At this point I'm grateful for LMI's acquisition as it gave me the chance to evaluate other options 🙂

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                          • NicN
                            Nic
                            last edited by Nic

                            I've heard good things about Dashlane too.

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m
                              last edited by

                              I am still using keepass (for about 10 years). I use a master password and a key file. I have the encrypted DB file synced across all my systems and mobile devices using dropbox. Being that it is encrypted prior to being synced and stored "in the cloud", does this present a problem?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @WingCreative
                                last edited by

                                @WingCreative said:

                                I switched over to Dashlane after LastPass' LMI acquisition and have been evaluating them since. I really like their interface and how easy it is to use, though having their program start with Windows took getting used to.

                                They provide easy ways to import data from other password managers - exporting my LastPass passwords was easy, and there's an option to import KeePass data as well which I have yet to try. They also have apps for iOS and Android so you can access your passwords on mobile if you'd like. Their browser plugins also seem to be a little more seamless than LastPass' IMO.

                                I ended up buying Dashlane Premium with no regrets so far. At this point I'm grateful for LMI's acquisition as it gave me the chance to evaluate other options 🙂

                                Dashlane is more than 3 times the cost of LastPass though.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @wrx7m
                                  last edited by

                                  @wrx7m said:

                                  I am still using keepass (for about 10 years). I use a master password and a key file. I have the encrypted DB file synced across all my systems and mobile devices using dropbox. Being that it is encrypted prior to being synced and stored "in the cloud", does this present a problem?

                                  That is not any different than how Dashlan or LastPass work at a general level.

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                                  • wrx7mW
                                    wrx7m
                                    last edited by

                                    Right, but presumably, there is less risk associated with me having the control over decryption capability, would that be correct or am I missing something?

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @wrx7m
                                      last edited by

                                      @wrx7m said:

                                      Right, but presumably, there is less risk associated with me having the control over decryption capability, would that be correct or am I missing something?

                                      Why do you think you have more control. Lastpass also does all encryption locally before sending any data to LP. Only an encrypted blob is sent to LP.

                                      If you're on a computer that's never used LP before, the javascript that's in the page does local checking/verifying of your username/password before the blob is downloaded to you, and once it's there, it's decrypted only locally.

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender I thought it was managed on the back end on their site. Guess not. That's why I asked. 🙂

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          @wrx7m said:

                                          @Dashrender I thought it was managed on the back end on their site. Guess not. That's why I asked. 🙂

                                          Nah - only reason I trust it was because they, LP, never had/have access to your data.

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                                          • wrx7mW
                                            wrx7m @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender I guess I got confused when everyone was crapping on them due to the acquisition by LMI.

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