Running Quickbooks is like....
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@art_of_shred said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Can't always change things. The important thing, IMHO, is making sure that they understand that IT does not approve and that we see it as them not taking their business seriously. It's one thing to support what we are told to support, it is another to empower bad decision making by making it "seem acceptable."
This is where the "OMG we're all gonna die if we use QB" started to creep in. Before this post, I agreed with your point about not condoning bad decisions. At this point is where it began to turn and just become silly.
That's my take here.
Is QB really THAT BAD? Or rather THAT DAMAGING to business profit?
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@BRRABill said:
@art_of_shred said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Can't always change things. The important thing, IMHO, is making sure that they understand that IT does not approve and that we see it as them not taking their business seriously. It's one thing to support what we are told to support, it is another to empower bad decision making by making it "seem acceptable."
This is where the "OMG we're all gonna die if we use QB" started to creep in. Before this post, I agreed with your point about not condoning bad decisions. At this point is where it began to turn and just become silly.
That's my take here.
Is QB really THAT BAD? Or rather THAT DAMAGING to business profit?
Exactly, the point of the OP got lost in this "anyone who uses QB might as well just walk into the office with a gas can and a lighter" direction.
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@BRRABill said:
That's my take here.
Is QB really THAT BAD? Or rather THAT DAMAGING to business profit?
Is it damaging and bad? Then it is bad enough. How bad do you need it to be before it's a concern? Why isn't the fact that it is bad not all that it takes?
Why would we ever worry about something being "that bad"? We need to look for good solutions, best options. Not try to see what we can not bother fixing. Sure, in triage, we have to decide where to focus efforts. But we should strive for "good" for the sake of itself.
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Using RAID 5 isn't "all that bad" for most things. What makes it crazy on spinning rust is that it is "always worse than another option." There is never a time that it makes sense. That makes it extra bad just because there is no legitimate reason for it to get considered in the first place. Once you know something is bad for your business, move on.
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In a world where QB was the only option, things would be very different. If it was the best of breed and everything else was worse or more expensive... well then, it would be "fine." But in the real world, it's an expensive, poor product made by a vendor that puts their customers at risk unnecessarily. It's a real world full of great competitor products with higher quality, better support, better vendors, lower cost, more features, etc.
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Remember, ignorance and/or apathy says "this might possibly hurt something, but I'm not motivated enough to do anything special to avoid that." Sabotage says "what can I do to really screw stuff up?" The two are distinct. There is NO overlap in the motive, only the possible outcomes. But, you can't simply judge all ignorance or apathy with motive to sabotage. They are NOT intentionally malicious.
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@art_of_shred said:
Remember, ignorance and/or apathy says "this might possibly hurt something, but I'm not motivated enough to do anything special to avoid that." Sabotage says "what can I do to really screw stuff up?" The two are distinct. There is NO overlap in the motive, only the possible outcomes. But, you can't simply judge all ignorance or apathy with motive to sabotage. They are NOT intentionally malicious.
I don't believe that anyone suggested that the two were the same. However being intentionally malicious is not part of the definition of sabotage. Apathy is certainly, technically a cause of sabotage. I'm just arguing the point - I don't believe that I saw anyone state this until now. There are two usages of it, the second has no intent, any undermining qualifies. Apathy certainly is a cause of undermining of business.
noun
1.
any underhand interference with production, work, etc., in a plant, factory, etc., as by enemy agents during wartime or by employees during a trade dispute.
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So, can we come back to the point where we all agree that using less-than-optimal products/infrastructure is not the best thing to do, and therefore we should always avoid such things for the sake of the business and the benefit of all involved in the effects of such a decision, whenever the opportunity to avoid them is available? If so, I think that's where it ends.
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@art_of_shred said:
So, can we come back to the point where we all agree that using less-than-optimal products/infrastructure is not the best thing to do, and therefore we should always avoid such things for the sake of the business and the benefit of all involved in the effects of such a decision, whenever the opportunity to avoid them is available? If so, I think that's where it ends.
As long as we all agree on the list of less-than-optimal products/infrastructure.
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@BRRABill said:
@art_of_shred said:
So, can we come back to the point where we all agree that using less-than-optimal products/infrastructure is not the best thing to do, and therefore we should always avoid such things for the sake of the business and the benefit of all involved in the effects of such a decision, whenever the opportunity to avoid them is available? If so, I think that's where it ends.
As long as we all agree on the list of less-than-optimal products/infrastructure.
Then I guess we are screwed
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LOL, indeed.
