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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      @Garyw provided one today, very good one from a software coupling perspective:

      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1307155-another-example-of-the-san-os-being-a-single-point-of-failure

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Don't have the details but yet another lost MSA / DotHill SAN where the controllers did nothing to protect them:

        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1309837-desperate-lost-config-on-msa-2012i

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        • brianlittlejohnB
          brianlittlejohn
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          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

          Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @brianlittlejohn
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            @brianlittlejohn said:

            http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

            Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

            Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @stacksofplates
              last edited by dafyre

              @johnhooks Because that is the name that they know... at least for Virtualization.

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              • brianlittlejohnB
                brianlittlejohn @stacksofplates
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                @johnhooks said:

                @brianlittlejohn said:

                http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @brianlittlejohn
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                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                  http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                  Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                  Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                  That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

                  Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @stacksofplates
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                    @johnhooks said:

                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                    http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                    Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                    Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                    That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

                    Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

                    They don't... most places think they are one in the same.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                      @johnhooks said:

                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                      Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                      Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                      When someone is being guided by salesmen, the factors will remain the same. VMware is what makes someone money, as is selling HA features and SANs. The thing that makes someone try to sell one piece makes them try to sell all of them. All part of the same "being taken advantage of by sales people".

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                        @johnhooks said:

                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                        @johnhooks said:

                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                        Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                        Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                        That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

                        Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

                        I've been wondering about this as well. There are a LOT of people claiming to be IT people that are really just "IT buyers" who can't even tell when they are buying something reasonable or not.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates
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                          So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..

                          "It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            yeah, he has no idea what he is doing.... needs all these features today and is going to give them up someday when he goes to NetApp.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @stacksofplates
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                              @johnhooks said:

                              So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..

                              "It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."

                              Wait... why would you use iSCSI... doesn't VMWare recommend NFS for shared storage?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Indeed BOTH VMware and Synology suggest NFS!!

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver
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                                  Not that I am saying that shared storage is the right solution here but if you are going to do bad things you may as well do them right.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    yeah, bad setup of a bad design.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      And another...

                                      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324720-migrate-from-hyper-v-to-vmware-and-add-san-s-to-the-mix

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        And another...

                                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324720-migrate-from-hyper-v-to-vmware-and-add-san-s-to-the-mix

                                        Holy cow. SBS and Alpha Anywhere. I've never talked to anyone other than @dafyre that has used Alpha before. I can't imagine paying for their new webserver.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
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                                          And another one for the pile....

                                          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1369163-high-available-nas-solution?source=homepage-feed

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            New one. This guy is not aware of the IPOD, hopefully we can fix things before they get bad.

                                            http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1352900-synology-nas-single-lun-or-several-luns

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