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    Installing X2Go NX Server on Linux Mint 17.2

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      On which desktops have you seen issues?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Just tested and works well on Cinnamon, the standard desktop.

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        • dafyreD
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          Cinnamon does not work at all for me. Using the Windows X2Go client, I cannot see the mouse pointer at all. Using the PyHoca client, I get the desktop icons, but no panel at the bottom of my screen, lol.

          Using Mate, everything works beautifully. I must also add this is a Virtual Box VM that I am connecting to, and Cinnamon works fine when logged in locally at my laptop.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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            @dafyre said:

            Cinnamon does not work at all for me.

            Are you fully up to date? Are you using the X2Go that came with the OS?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dafyre
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              @dafyre said:

              Using the Windows X2Go client, I cannot see the mouse pointer at all. Using the PyHoca client, I get the desktop icons, but no panel at the bottom of my screen, lol.

              OH WAIT!!!

              You mean on the terminal server side, not the local client side. Okay, totally different. And yes, we had Cinnamon issues with ScreenConnect but not with X2Go. But we don't use Cinnamon but use LXDE just because it is lighter and faster over the NX link.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre
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                Yea on the terminal Server side. I'm using the Pyhoca GUI + Mate. It rocks! And to whoever was complaining about the funky seal looking icon, thta is the Pyhoca GUI, and not the regular X2Go Client app.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Any issues with software rendering and Mate? Mate is the one desktop we never test (Gnome 2 and all that.) You find it superior to LXDE? We find default XFCE to be very wasteful on screen real estate.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Any issues with software rendering and Mate? Mate is the one desktop we never test (Gnome 2 and all that.) You find it superior to LXDE? We find default XFCE to be very wasteful on screen real estate.

                    I was always a big fan of the old Gnome (before Gnome 3 / Unity and all that). Mate runs plenty fast enough for me from off site, over ZT and a home connection that only has 4mbit upload.

                    I really like the Pyhoca GUI, as it can dynamically resize the screen with only a short lag. I can watch videos on youtube (not in full screen, lol) and sound works too (I think). I also like Mate because it is similar in layout to Cinnamon without the hardware requirements for the fancy effects.

                    I should probably try out LXDE, I don't recall using that recently.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
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                      I had the same issue with cinnamon. It would go to fallback mode and then all you had was the application menu and places. I couldn't even log out! But Mate works really well. You get the old Mint Menu design and it works pretty well at least on my LAN. I'm going to test it tomorrow from my parents house over ZeroTier to see how it works over the internet.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                        @johnhooks said:

                        I had the same issue with cinnamon. It would go to fallback mode and then all you had was the application menu and places. I couldn't even log out! But Mate works really well. You get the old Mint Menu design and it works pretty well at least on my LAN. I'm going to test it tomorrow from my parents house over ZeroTier to see how it works over the internet.

                        How use ZeroTier? Why not connect directly?

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @stacksofplates
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                          @johnhooks It seems to work really well over the internet for me. I love the fact that I can disconnect a session and come back to it later. I've always wanted that for the Linux GUI.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller Because we don't want to poke holes in our router / firewall. 😄 ... and we already have ZT going.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Yes, persistent desktops are really nice.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                I had the same issue with cinnamon. It would go to fallback mode and then all you had was the application menu and places. I couldn't even log out! But Mate works really well. You get the old Mint Menu design and it works pretty well at least on my LAN. I'm going to test it tomorrow from my parents house over ZeroTier to see how it works over the internet.

                                How use ZeroTier? Why not connect directly?

                                It's on a VM on the server in my house. I'd either have to port forward or just use ZeroTier.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @scottalanmiller Because we don't want to poke holes in our router / firewall. 😄 ... and we already have ZT going.

                                  But for security, you don't want unnecessary exposure, right?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                    @johnhooks said:

                                    It's on a VM on the server in my house. I'd either have to port forward or just use ZeroTier.

                                    Ah, okay.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller tries to see where you're going with this

                                      Right. So I'll use my existing ZT Network and not (manually) poke holes in my firewall.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said:

                                        @scottalanmiller tries to see where you're going with this

                                        Right. So I'll use my existing ZT Network and not (manually) poke holes in my firewall.

                                        So you are going to expose the whole network to any ransomware / cryptoware risks on your connecting machines? One of the beauties of using a terminal server is providing an air gap to keep the biggest risks from getting through. VPNs are huge risks to networkworks.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller With something like ZeroTier, the LAN is simply spread over larger distances. In that same retrospect, considering any Remote-Desktop-like tool (RDSH / X2Go, et al) there's always a risk that someone can get infected with bad stuff.

                                          If a user is using X2Go/RDP and connected to my server and they are connected to all their shares, and they get hit with Cryptoware, it doesn't matter that they're on an remote-session, or if they're physically connected to the LAN or by ZT (or VPN), it will still encrypt their files and shares.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said:

                                            @scottalanmiller With something like ZeroTier, the LAN is simply spread over larger distances. In that same retrospect, considering any Remote-Desktop-like tool (RDSH / X2Go, et al) there's always a risk that someone can get infected with bad stuff.

                                            Not really. If I'm connected to an NX server at a client site, they cannot infect me nor can I infect them. We are firewalled from each other except for the graphical protocol. It's dramatically safer than a VPN.

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