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    • scottalanmillerS
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      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTvJbIQUsAAVy4G.jpg

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      • Reid CooperR
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        So incredibly sad 😞

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        • mlnewsM
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          Seven dead as French TGV high-speed train derails in east

          http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/5260/production/_86688012_c98e620f-3996-4c4e-99a7-c695400c1ee8.jpg

          http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34822666

          A high-speed TGV train has derailed near the eastern French city of Strasbourg, killing at least seven people, officials say.

          The crash happened during a test run in the town of Eckwersheim, on a new Paris-Strasbourg line.
          Reports say technicians were on board the train and seven people were injured.

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          • mlnewsM
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            US Cowers in Fear of ISIS and Caves to their Wishes of No Longer Taking Refugees

            http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34835353

            More than a dozen US states do exactly what ISIS wants and refuse to take refugees as a response to the attacks in Paris. So sad that instead of standing up, the states give in so quickly.

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            • mlnewsM
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              Latest from France:

              http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-34825270

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              • MattSpellerM
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                Going to be lots of magic underpants on craigslist going cheap

                http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/15/thousands-quit-mormon-church-in-mass-resignation/

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                • mlnewsM
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                  Would have been so much better if they were mailing in underpants instead of letters.

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                    51 Arrested in Minneapolis Police Protest

                    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34847522

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                    • scottalanmillerS
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                      Charlie Sheen confirms he is HIV positive
                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34845630

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                      • scottalanmillerS
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                        Man at centre of Minneapolis race protests dies
                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34848250

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                        • scottalanmillerS
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                          Russia steps up attacks against IS with missile bombardment
                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34849063

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                            Paris attacks: Heavy shooting heard in northern suburb
                            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34853657

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                              Paris attacks: Police in deadly swoop on apartment in northern suburb
                              http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34853657

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                                Avista: Wind Storm Damage Has Caused 'Largest Crisis in 126 Years,' Power Utility Says

                                About 180,000 of the utility's customers in Eastern Washington, Idaho and Oregon lost power by the peak of Tuesday's storm. Avista said it would take at least three to five days to restore service.

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                                • coliverC
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                                  @mlnews said:

                                  US Cowers in Fear of ISIS and Caves to their Wishes of No Longer Taking Refugees

                                  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34835353

                                  More than a dozen US states do exactly what ISIS wants and refuse to take refugees as a response to the attacks in Paris. So sad that instead of standing up, the states give in so quickly.

                                  If I'm not mistaken the states don't have the legal right to do this. This is a federal matter.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
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                                    @coliver that is correct, the states are threatening to violate the sovereignty of the nation. The free movement of people around the nation with border control at the borders is a pretty fundamental federal governance. These states have declared that they have the right to decide anyone who can move through or settle in their territory. This means that they might declare you or I not allowed to go to those states simply because they no longer feel that US citizenship is enough.

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                                    • dafyreD
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                                      I saw a good analogy on FB last night that, I think sums up the issue with the Refugees, especially since the majority of them are likely going to be Muslim...

                                      Say I gave you a bowl of M & Ms and told you "These are for you, but there's about 10% of them that were dropped in poison"...

                                      Would you still eat the bowl of M & Ms? The Analogy here is that not all Refugees are going to be extremists running around blowing people up. But there's still the minority that will. Is it fair to (knowingly or not) put our families in that position?

                                      It would be much different if the American Public said "Yawl come on over"... and it not be something mandated by the federal government.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
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                                        @dafyre said:

                                        I saw a good analogy on FB last night that, I think sums up the issue with the Refugees, especially since the majority of them are likely going to be Muslim...

                                        Say I gave you a bowl of M & Ms and told you "These are for you, but there's about 10% of them that were dropped in poison"...

                                        That's a horrible analogy. It's nothing like that at all. It's more like we offer to a bowl of M&Ms and just like all food you ever eat, including the food you have already eaten and hasn't affected you yet, might contain poison somewhere. But if you don't eat this "No different than any other food" food, you know that OTHER people WILL BE poisoned.

                                        Refugees are not a new, different or unique risk. We have far, far more risk already in our "stomachs." The M&Ms are risky, sure, but no moreso than any other food we eat. But if we stop eating, other people will get poisoned.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
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                                          @dafyre said:

                                          But there's still the minority that will.

                                          Statistically that's not true. No refugees have ever done that in the US. Historically our screening process and refugee processes have kept us safe from refugee concerns like that. This argument, that some of a group ARE poison, would suggest that all gun owning Americans today be locked up or department immediately because we should "gag ourselves" knowing that a small percentage of them will go around shooting up schools and churches, right? So if we are to throw out the innocent with the tainted, why do it only to imaginary threats and not to very established and known ones?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
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                                            It also assumes that the M&Ms are only risky when eaten, but we believe that to not be true. Providing good jobs and good educations and good opportunities to populations reduces extremism over time. And extremists are more dangerous when external than internal statistically.

                                            So by not eating the M&Ms you are increasing the risk overall over time. Taking on more risk to avoid risk, a bad risk mitigation maneuver.

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