Backup File Server to DAS
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@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.
As it should because the OS sees a change in hardware. This is yet another "one of those" items on the list of "why we always virtualize from day one." It's a small caveat, but it is there.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.
i get shocked, my dream to visualize is broken
Its' changing the underlying hardware. It should be expected that you will need to re-authenticate. We've discussed exactly this limitation stopping you from virtualizing in another thread.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
That is likely yes.
If you were so easily able to search for a CD key, and in your country you clearly don't care about being properly licensed what is stopping you or the company you work for from finding another product key?
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
That is likely yes.
If you were so easily able to search for a CD key, and in your country you clearly don't care about being properly licensed what is stopping you or the company you work for from finding another product key?
because now, i'm the IT person for the company, before the servers were sold to us with windows system
and i'm not ready to repeat the same mistake and crack a windows copy, -
@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
but any way i will try, but before that i will inform the management that the physical server may be blacklisted and damaged (because when the VM authorize itself against windows with the physical server Key, there is a risk to damage also the physical server )
if they are ready for this risk i will try the VM, if they just said leave the server as it is then i will leave everything physical
i'm right with my plan ?? -
Remember that a P2V done to a different system will not affect the original system. So there are ways to test the key with the existing systems.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
but any way i will try, but before that i will inform the management that the physical server may be blacklisted and damaged (because when the VM authorize itself against windows with the physical server Key, there is a risk to damage also the physical server )
if they are ready for this risk i will try the VM, if they just said leave the server as it is then i will leave everything physical
i'm right with my plan ??You're only "right" if the company doesn't understand that they are putting them selves at a larger risk by your physical server dying.
What will the company do once this server does die? Likely they'll blame you for not doing something.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
but any way i will try, but before that i will inform the management that the physical server may be blacklisted and damaged (because when the VM authorize itself against windows with the physical server Key, there is a risk to damage also the physical server )
if they are ready for this risk i will try the VM, if they just said leave the server as it is then i will leave everything physical
i'm right with my plan ??You're only "right" if the company doesn't understand that they are putting them selves at a larger risk by your physical server dying.
What will the company do once this server does die? Likely they'll blame you for not doing something.
That's a real risk. If the physical machine dies, you face the same issue with the key. You will not have a way to restore from backup if the key does not work.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
but any way i will try, but before that i will inform the management that the physical server may be blacklisted and damaged (because when the VM authorize itself against windows with the physical server Key, there is a risk to damage also the physical server )
if they are ready for this risk i will try the VM, if they just said leave the server as it is then i will leave everything physical
i'm right with my plan ??You're only "right" if the company doesn't understand that they are putting them selves at a larger risk by your physical server dying.
What will the company do once this server does die? Likely they'll blame you for not doing something.
This. Even with a proper backup you will probably have to re-authorize your key when you restore to the same (or similar) hardware.
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@coliver said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
but any way i will try, but before that i will inform the management that the physical server may be blacklisted and damaged (because when the VM authorize itself against windows with the physical server Key, there is a risk to damage also the physical server )
if they are ready for this risk i will try the VM, if they just said leave the server as it is then i will leave everything physical
i'm right with my plan ??You're only "right" if the company doesn't understand that they are putting them selves at a larger risk by your physical server dying.
What will the company do once this server does die? Likely they'll blame you for not doing something.
This. Even with a proper backup you will probably have to re-authorize your key when you restore to the same (or similar) hardware.
And be probably he means definitely. If the P2V process does it, any restore will do it.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
but any way i will try, but before that i will inform the management that the physical server may be blacklisted and damaged (because when the VM authorize itself against windows with the physical server Key, there is a risk to damage also the physical server )
if they are ready for this risk i will try the VM, if they just said leave the server as it is then i will leave everything physical
i'm right with my plan ??Think about it this way. If trying to activate that CD Key on your VM caused your other server to stop working, then all of the servers around the world running that key would stop working.
Remember the process, Run the P2V to create the OVA files. Then shut off the old server. Now import the OVA files into XenServer, then start the VM. Try to authorize. If it works, great!
If not, turn the VM off and turn the old server back on.You are never at risk of deactivating the old server from this process.
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Good example of why not to worry there. Otherwise any of us could Google that key, use it and shut you off.
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yes you are right guys, thank you for this encouragement to do this project,
now that my concern to deactivate the physical server was not true, i can try P2V -
i have a technical question here
you said that if i keep my physical server and in case of disaster and backup my server using a previous system image then this system image will reauthorize itself again, right ??
but in this scenario there is no hardware change, so why the system will try to activate himself again ??? -
@IT-ADMIN The system will attempt to reauthorize it's self because your changing the underlying hardware.
From a physical motherboard, cpu, memory etc to a virtual one.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i have a technical question here
you said that if i keep my physical server and in case of disaster and backup my server using a previous system image then this system image will reauthorize itself again, right ??
but in this scenario there is no hardware change, so why the system will try to activate himself again ???I tend to disagree with that above listed statement. If you restore your system to the exact same hardware it was on before, it's very unlikely that you would need to re authorize the system.
But as Scott already mentioned... This is another great reason to use a VM. VMs can move between platforms and rarely if ever re authorize themselves because the VM doesn't see the hardware change.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@IT-ADMIN The system will attempt to reauthorize it's self because your changing the underlying hardware.
From a physical motherboard, cpu, memory etc to a virtual one.
His question this morning would be about restoring his backup onto the same hardware it's always been running on, nothing to do with VMing.
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Using a Bare metal restore to identical hardware?
Then what causes the host to fail? OS Failure? Then you shouldn't have an issue unless your well outside of a normal restore point. Like Service Pack differences.
