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    • dafyreD
      dafyre
      last edited by

      @coliver Is right. It really is "that easy" lol. And I think that it does install DNS as part of the AD Promotion process too, so really all that is left is to back up the first DC (if you are paranoid as I am) and then promote the second one. 🙂
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      • bbiAngieB
        bbiAngie
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        If I don't plan on decommissioning anything right away, there is not much of a need for backups is there? Nothing I am about to do will affect production at all will it? (if it slows slightly during replication, that is fine.)

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre
          last edited by

          Generally, no. But if anything goes sideways, it's always better safe than sorry, lol.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            Do you need backups? sounds like it's not critical, but hopefully you are backing up at least one of your DCs.

            DNS isn't required, or mandated by the promotion (unless that was changed in 2012 R2) but I'd highly recommend it (might even be considered best practices) and should be offered to be installed during promotion if you don't already have it installed.

            The rest of the guys are right, it really is that simple... you don't need to do anything to setup replication. The system takes care of that during AD promotion.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @bbiAngie
              last edited by

              @bbiAngie said:

              Question I think the answer is yes but want to verify: Should I have DNS installed on the secondary DC as well?

              Yes, if you are using your DCs as your DNS servers (which is by far the most common option) then you will want redundant DNS just like you want redundant AD. Without the redundant DNS, the secondary DC will not be useful as DNS will be down when it is needed.

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              • bbiAngieB
                bbiAngie @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender Both my current DC's are getting backed up nightly. Only reason I question is because if there is any chance this will bring down the "primary" DC, I need to wait to do it.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Do you need backups?

                  You already have these, I hope! Is your DC currently not part of a daily backup process?

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                  • bbiAngieB
                    bbiAngie
                    last edited by bbiAngie

                    Based on what you all say, all I really need to do is promote it to a DC, then point it back to my current "primary," let it do its thing then I should be done. (besides re-pointing DNS)

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                      Jason Banned @dafyre
                      last edited by Jason

                      @dafyre said:

                      I would definitely check and make sure that DNS was installed on your second DC. Have you actually gone through the process to promote it from being a member server yet?

                      That will install with AD DS

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Do you need backups?

                        You already have these, I hope! Is your DC currently not part of a daily backup process?

                        lol that was really rhetorical 😉

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @bbiAngie
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                          @bbiAngie said:

                          Based on what you all say, all I really need to do is promote it to a DC, then point it back to my current "primary," let it do its thing then I should be done. (besides re-pointing DNS)

                          You don't even need to do that. Promoting it will do all of this for you.

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                            Jason Banned @Dashrender
                            last edited by Jason

                            @Dashrender said:

                            DNS isn't required, or mandated by the promotion (unless that was changed in 2012 R2) but I'd highly recommend it (might even be considered best practices) and should be offered to be installed during promotion if you don't already have it installed.

                            DHCP isn't required. DNS very much is a required part of a DC (but doesn't have to be on the same server)

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                            • bbiAngieB
                              bbiAngie
                              last edited by

                              Cool, like I said, it just seemed way to easy to be correct. Glad made sure before!

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                              • bbiAngieB
                                bbiAngie
                                last edited by

                                A delegation for the DNS server cannot be created because the authoritative parent zone cannot be found or it does not run in Windows NS server. If you are integrating with an existing DNS infrastructure, you should manually create a delegation to this DNS server in the parent zone to ensure reliable name resolution from outside the domain "domain.name.". Otherwise, no action is required.

                                Translation?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @bbiAngie
                                  last edited by

                                  @bbiAngie said:

                                  Based on what you all say, all I really need to do is promote it to a DC, then point it back to my current "primary," let it do its thing then I should be done. (besides re-pointing DNS)

                                  Pretty much - I've never seen a failure when promoting a DC. Before you promote the DC, make sure the primarily DNS points to one of the other DCs (which it probably already does). You don't need to change this until just before you demote the old one.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Pretty much - I've never seen a failure when promoting a DC.

                                    I see it most times, normally a DNS error.

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                                      Jason Banned @bbiAngie
                                      last edited by

                                      @bbiAngie said:

                                      A delegation for the DNS server cannot be created because the authoritative parent zone cannot be found or it does not run in Windows NS server. If you are integrating with an existing DNS infrastructure, you should manually create a delegation to this DNS server in the parent zone to ensure reliable name resolution from outside the domain "domain.name.". Otherwise, no action is required.

                                      Translation?

                                      It means it couldn't created one at the root, this is expected in many cases as the .com or root dns is not yours.

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                                      • bbiAngieB
                                        bbiAngie @Jason
                                        last edited by bbiAngie

                                        @Jason Is that most likely since one already exists? Should I just click through the error and do all the dns stuff after?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          Do you get that when you try to install DNS before you promote your server to AD DS?

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                                          • bbiAngieB
                                            bbiAngie
                                            last edited by

                                            I am getting it during the DNS options while doing the Promo

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