@scottalanmiller said:

@wrx7m said:

I agree with you but how do you know what people are accessing if you aren't monitoring it, at least passively?

I don't want to know what they are accessing. I know of no positive, but tons of negative, results from that. Having that information available doesn't itself cause problems, but it makes problems really easy to have - like not looking at how well people do their jobs and instead looking at what web sites that they go to.

I truly believe that 99.9% of the time, having this information has only negative value. And IT should never want this, management might require it, but it would never be in IT's interest to have to collect this.

IT services don't exist in a vacuum and most management would disagree. Management wants info like this occasionally. Sometimes they want even more, which requires specialized software installed on the local system. I really hate doing that.

@scottalanmiller said:

@wrx7m said:

@scottalanmiller Thanks for the info. What about use of a proxy/application control?

Proxies have their place, and I was using one at home even in the 1990s. Proxying itself is pretty much useless for 95% of businesses, but some need it. But a proxy requires a lot of horsepower and should never be combined with routing. For proxy and cache functions I would also turn to Squid for normal stuff and if you feel that you need to control access (which I generally think is a horrible idea and you should fire everyone if you think you need this) I would use Websense as nothing else even pretends to actually do anything.

I agree with you but how do you know what people are accessing if you aren't monitoring it, at least passively? Sure there is management but short of standing over everyone's shoulder, I don't see a better way to be able to produce the stats.

@scottalanmiller Right, I understand your point on separating the functions from the firewall, itself.

@scottalanmiller Thanks for the info. What about use of a proxy/application control?

@scottalanmiller Interesting. So you would just go with endpoint protection after the router/firewall?

Gateway AV, DPI, IDS, IPS

Let's say you set up an EdgeRouter, what would you guys recommend for the additional services that a UTM platform would normally provide?

@scottalanmiller In terms of installing OwnCloud, would you recommend waiting until aforementioned fixes have been applied?

For laptops, I do OEM (Lenovo). For Samsung phones that have replaceable batteries, I do Anker.

@Jason And up to about a year ago, I believe, IT/O365 admins were not able to access the page with which devices a user had installed Office onto. I found that quite odd and nonsensical.

@scottalanmiller Yeah, thanks. I saw that one then saw this thread.

I will hang tight until we can get to the bottom of the, "should I even use OwnCloud" debacle.

@scottalanmiller I'll bring some popcorn.

This is some crazy sh!t.

@scottalanmiller Are you referring to Owncloud or CentOS 6 being insecure?
NM - I see the answer is, unfortunately, OwnCloud.

@aaronstuder I also noticed the parenthetical beta displayed in the description.

Is anyone using the applications method for owncloud deployment, or are you all just using a Linux instance and installing owncloud manually?

@aaronstuder Done.

@scottalanmiller said:

Oh, now I understand. Log out and don't log back in and look. So for non-customers, they don't advertise them. Weird.

Really weird. I was interested in pricing out a vps for owncloud. I guess I will need to signup just to find out the cost.

As someone who does not have an account, I do not see the SATA option anywhere.

Compute shows all SSD:

Block storage shows a slider with only SSD options: