@scottalanmiller said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

@wrx7m said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

@NerdyDad said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

@wrx7m We have a couple of Synology's around our enterprise and am currently using Veeam to backup VMs from their respective local hosts. But I would also have the same concern about the synology that I am also having with this current SAN. It will eventually be the bottom part of the pyramid.

I should point out that I also am using Veeam and have been since I put my VI into production. Can't wait for 9.5!

Cool, are you using Veeam Replication then between hosts?

Not at this time. Each host has different VMs running on them. I really need to increase the RAM on both to make sure that I can migrate everything from one to the other. At this time, I power off some less/non-essential VMs and live migrate the others during patching, which doesn't occur all that often on ESXi.

@NerdyDad said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

@wrx7m We have a couple of Synology's around our enterprise and am currently using Veeam to backup VMs from their respective local hosts. But I would also have the same concern about the synology that I am also having with this current SAN. It will eventually be the bottom part of the pyramid.

I should point out that I also am using Veeam and have been since I put my VI into production. Can't wait for 9.5!

@scottalanmiller said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

@wrx7m said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

@scottalanmiller said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

@wrx7m said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

I have 2 Dell R720XD each with 10x1TB NLSAS in OBR10 and 1 older Dell R710 with 4 10K SAS drives in OBR10 running ESXi 6 (all installed on redundant SD card or USB flash).

Doing anything like Starwind between them?

I am not at this time. I was doing the now-defunct, overly-complicated, under-supported, vSphere Storage Appliance v5. It was great until it had issues with some of the services that were required to run and keep track of the heartbeat. Early this year, I basically tore the whole thing out and rebuilt my VI in stages. Much simpler and elegant and since I have added 10Ge, live vmotion only takes a couple minutes for each VM (minus my big ass file server).

It's a good way to go. Not sure how much of a pain it will be to retrofit, though.

Yeah, I did look into it. Especially, since 2 nodes was (is?) free. I was and am still wary from the VSA debacle.
Edit - Obviously, it is a totally different solution but I needed to get off of VSA and it was just too much to handle at that time. Once I get a bearing on our goals for the next couple of years, here, I will see how it fits into what is needed.

@NerdyDad said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

@wrx7m We have a couple of Synology's around our enterprise and am currently using Veeam to backup VMs from their respective local hosts. But I would also have the same concern about the synology that I am also having with this current SAN. It will eventually be the bottom part of the pyramid.

If it is only one of your backup targets, it really isn't.

@scottalanmiller said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

@wrx7m said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

I have 2 Dell R720XD each with 10x1TB NLSAS in OBR10 and 1 older Dell R710 with 4 10K SAS drives in OBR10 running ESXi 6 (all installed on redundant SD card or USB flash).

Doing anything like Starwind between them?

I am not at this time. I was doing the now-defunct, overly-complicated, under-supported, vSphere Storage Appliance v5. It was great until it had issues with some of the services that were required to run and keep track of the heartbeat. Early this year, I basically tore the whole thing out and rebuilt my VI in stages. Much simpler and elegant and since I have added 10Ge, live vmotion only takes a couple minutes for each VM (minus my big ass file server).

I have 2 Dell R720XD each with 10x1TB NLSAS in OBR10 and 1 older Dell R710 with 4 10K SAS drives in OBR10 running ESXi 6 (all installed on redundant SD card or USB flash). They are backed up to a Synology DS1813+ with 8x4TB Segate Constellation drives in OBR10 and then backups are uploaded throughout the day to Amazon S3 and Glacier.

Back in mid 2013, the cost for the R720xd servers was $7229 a piece with 4-hour Pro Support. The cost for the Synology was $999 (diskless) and the disks came to $2196. The total was $3195 for a backup target.

2- Dell R720XD servers and one loaded Synology NAS came to about $17,653 (USD), which is half of the lowest end of what you are looking at for a SAN.

@NerdyDad Yikes! That is a ton of dough to get you into the same predicament.

@scottalanmiller said in Replacing the Dead IPOD, SAN Bit the Dust:

Waiting on parts, but they will have those very soon.

The parts mentioned are the SAN controllers?

Zedge?

@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

@wrx7m said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

@DustinB3403 said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

@wrx7m said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

Oh thank goodness. I thought this was going to be a sob story post about these people who should be able to earn something even though they made horrible decisions to take out insane student loans for something almost nobody cares about. It's not. It is about people wanting the rest of us to pay them to do something society doesn't really want or need.

These people need a dose of reality and a lesson in the sunk cost fallacy. Cut bait, head into the real world and learn a real skill.

Now at the same time, I do not think teachers are worthless, but teaching is not a societal need, but a societal expectation.

Higher education is expected to be available and had by everyone, but not everyone wants to go to college. They might just want to go and work for a stone mason, and learn how to work with stone.

Its informal but practical education that teaches real world skills.

I agree. Teachers are not worthless. My mother was a teacher her whole life.

Higher education should be just that- higher education. Don't coddle people in their pursuits of degrees or studies that serve no real purpose. There should never be loans given for those degrees. Imagine if people had to pay cash as they went for a degree in something that nobody needs or cares about. I would be very surprised if there weren't less than half the number of people in these self-created conditions.

No loans, period. No degree is for getting a job, university training is for "general learning", it's not a trade school. So no degree should have loans.

Fine with me. Imagine how much the cost of education would drop without loans.

@DustinB3403 said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

@wrx7m said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:

Oh thank goodness. I thought this was going to be a sob story post about these people who should be able to earn something even though they made horrible decisions to take out insane student loans for something almost nobody cares about. It's not. It is about people wanting the rest of us to pay them to do something society doesn't really want or need.

These people need a dose of reality and a lesson in the sunk cost fallacy. Cut bait, head into the real world and learn a real skill.

Now at the same time, I do not think teachers are worthless, but teaching is not a societal need, but a societal expectation.

Higher education is expected to be available and had by everyone, but not everyone wants to go to college. They might just want to go and work for a stone mason, and learn how to work with stone.

Its informal but practical education that teaches real world skills.

I agree. Teachers are not worthless. My mother was a teacher her whole life.

Higher education should be just that- higher education. Don't coddle people in their pursuits of degrees or studies that serve no real purpose. There should never be loans given for those degrees. Imagine if people had to pay cash as they went for a degree in something that nobody needs or cares about. I would be very surprised if there weren't less than half the number of people in these self-created conditions.

@RojoLoco said in Tesla Announces Self Driving Cars:

@wrx7m said in Tesla Announces Self Driving Cars:

Now we need this for the Prius smugmobiles in CA. Most all Prius smugmobile owners in CA everywhere can't drive properly.

FTFY

Sadly, I believe there are more in CA than any other state.

Oh thank goodness. I thought this was going to be a sob story post about these people who should be able to earn something even though they made horrible decisions to take out insane student loans for something almost nobody cares about. It's not. It is about people wanting the rest of us to pay them to do something society doesn't really want or need.

These people need a dose of reality and a lesson in the sunk cost fallacy. Cut bait, head into the real world and learn a real skill.

Now we need this for the Prius in CA. Most Prius owners in CA can't drive properly.

I am using AD cert services for RADIUS authentication of wireless client devices and users.

@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud/Owncloud best use cases:

Collabora

This? https://www.collaboraoffice.com/solutions/collabora-cloudsuite/

For all of you who tout the lanless concept, what are you using to accomplish this? So far, I see a lot of hybrid suggestions- Nextcloud/ODfB plus a file server.

@Dashrender He could find out if it were. Simply measure the IOPS and calculate the max IOPS of existing configuration. If they are close, then his current config is a bottleneck.

He still needs to find out what his IOPS usage is, currently. Then make an educated guess what it will be in the next few years and decide which drives/configuration will support those results.

I didn't realize enterprise SSDs had come down enough to compete with 15k drives. Interesting.