@black3dynamite said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

I can't stop the service even if I try to rename the old pid file

What about disabling the httpd service and then restart the server?

This is going to sound stupid, but this is rhel 5. I see that I can disable service on startup but I actually don't see the option to disable the service. I also need to put a reboot request in to reboot a production server.

I am seeing a new entry in the logs:

PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php/modules/oci8.so' - libclntsh.so.11.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0

@scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

You are root?

Yes I'm root

the apache service status shows httpd dead but pid file exists. I cannot stop the service but when i start it, it treats it as starting properly. There is nothing is the logs about this error.

I also noticed that if I checked for apache updates with yum check-update httpd I get the following output

Loaded plugins: kmod, rhnplugin, security
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in ?
    yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 309, in user_main
    errcode = main(args)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 157, in main
    base.getOptionsConfig(args)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 187, in getOptionsConfig
    self.conf
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 665, in <lambda>
    conf = property(fget=lambda self: self._getConfig(),
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 254, in _getConfig
    self.plugins.run('init')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 179, in run
    func(conduitcls(self, self.base, conf, **kwargs))
  File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/rhnplugin.py", line 125, in init_hook
    login_info = up2dateAuth.getLoginInfo(timeout=timeout)
  File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateAuth.py", line 219, in getLoginInfo
    login(timeout=timeout)
  File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateAuth.py", line 170, in login
    server = rhnserver.RhnServer(timeout=timeout)
  File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnserver.py", line 155, in __init__
    self._server = rpcServer.getServer(timeout=timeout)
  File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpcServer.py", line 156, in getServer
    timeout=timeout)
TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'timeout'

This is an old rhel 5 machine

I can't stop the service even if I try to rename the old pid file

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

On a conference with NinjaRMM.

I have a vague memory of us not liking that solution but I can't remember why

@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Discussing with @wirestyle22 how Linus Tech Tips has become a "Brand Name of Data Loss".

I watched one video and I was so confused at how these guys get millions of views. Seems to be a scam

It's the "Reality TV" of IT. They aren't IT guys, or they don't act like them on the show. They are just clueless people with technology showing how badly and foolish things can be done. It's like a big joke. For some reason, people watch it like it's "Keeping Up with Linus Tech Tips" to see what dumbassery they do today. I'm sure he's a bright guy who knows where his bread is buttered and gives all this insanely obviously bad advice because people like to watch train wrecks. No way he's as dumb as he pretends to be, he just knows how to get views. Good for him. No IT person should ever watch it, but for the ignorant masses, it's some surreal tech entertainment show.

This one is classic.
Youtube Video

Sigh

@RojoLoco I make my grits into a dessert

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Discussing with @wirestyle22 how Linus Tech Tips has become a "Brand Name of Data Loss".

I watched one video and I was so confused at how these guys get millions of views. Seems to be a scam

It's the "Reality TV" of IT. They aren't IT guys, or they don't act like them on the show. They are just clueless people with technology showing how badly and foolish things can be done. It's like a big joke. For some reason, people watch it like it's "Keeping Up with Linus Tech Tips" to see what dumbassery they do today. I'm sure he's a bright guy who knows where his bread is buttered and gives all this insanely obviously bad advice because people like to watch train wrecks. No way he's as dumb as he pretends to be, he just knows how to get views. Good for him. No IT person should ever watch it, but for the ignorant masses, it's some surreal tech entertainment show.

Serious cringe levels

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Discussing with @wirestyle22 how Linus Tech Tips has become a "Brand Name of Data Loss".

I watched one video and I was so confused at how these guys get millions of views. Seems to be a scam

@stacksofplates said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Wrote a telegram bot running in cloud functions on GCP today.

lol

@jmoore said in Looking for Career Advice:

@wirestyle22 said in Looking for Career Advice:

@jmoore said in Looking for Career Advice:

@wirestyle22 said in Looking for Career Advice:

@jmoore said in Looking for Career Advice:

@Emad-R said in Looking for Career Advice:

Play with Suse man, i am loving it right now. If your in US/Canada study RHEL and Centos. I said stay cause you should be master in it, and you can learn another thing without that effecting. and be system admin

Yes I have always used rhel as a hobbyist. Suse has been much more current, like the last 3 years. I just keep vm's running and experiment on them to learn.

Learn automation. 100% doable at home and it puts you ahead of a lot of your peers. you can be leaps and bounds more efficient. Highly desirable.

Yes I forgot to mention that. I am currently learning Ansible. Bought a book and I'm going through all the exercises. thats what i did with KVM and many other topics.

In your learning, lean on @stacksofplates. He's one of the most active Ansible users here and in my experience is very willing to explain concepts and sharpen your understanding. That's the point of ML--we are all here to sharpen each other.

Thanks that makes a lot of sense. @stacksofplates has been very helpful in the past and I appreciate it. Ive tried out a few ideas from him in the past and I enjoyed learning.

You're already ahead of the game by just being motivated to learn man. keep it up

@RojoLoco We have a baking contest next week at my company. I'm going to make that Guinness Stout Chocolate Cake recipe you gave me

@jmoore said in Looking for Career Advice:

@wirestyle22 said in Looking for Career Advice:

@jmoore said in Looking for Career Advice:

@Emad-R said in Looking for Career Advice:

Play with Suse man, i am loving it right now. If your in US/Canada study RHEL and Centos. I said stay cause you should be master in it, and you can learn another thing without that effecting. and be system admin

Yes I have always used rhel as a hobbyist. Suse has been much more current, like the last 3 years. I just keep vm's running and experiment on them to learn.

Learn automation. 100% doable at home and it puts you ahead of a lot of your peers. you can be leaps and bounds more efficient. Highly desirable.

Yes I forgot to mention that. I am currently learning Ansible. Bought a book and I'm going through all the exercises. thats what i did with KVM and many other topics.

In your learning, lean on @stacksofplates. He's one of the most active Ansible users here and in my experience is very willing to explain concepts and sharpen your understanding. That's the point of ML--we are all here to sharpen each other.

@jmoore said in Looking for Career Advice:

@Emad-R said in Looking for Career Advice:

Play with Suse man, i am loving it right now. If your in US/Canada study RHEL and Centos. I said stay cause you should be master in it, and you can learn another thing without that effecting. and be system admin

Yes I have always used rhel as a hobbyist. Suse has been much more current, like the last 3 years. I just keep vm's running and experiment on them to learn.

Learn automation. 100% doable at home and it puts you ahead of a lot of your peers. you can be leaps and bounds more efficient. Highly desirable.

@jmoore said in Looking for Career Advice:

Hey Everyone,
As I'm sure most of you have been through this, I'm quite frustrated at my current job. It is low pay and I have never had a pay increase in my 5 years here. Users always complain to me about how little they make and tell me but then I am always too embarrased to tell them I make less than they do. This is actually just common here as that is why most people leave.

I have done the job of 3 people here for the last 2 years. We have 3 campuses and used to have a person at all 3 places. It has been just me for a little over 2 years. They only just now hired a person for 1 of the other campuses. We are a small 2 year college. On average I clear out 1250 tickets every 6 months according to my stats on our support software. So they keep me busy. I currently drive around to all 3 cities to do this and I pay my own gas. We are 100% Windows based for the users, with Win10 as our OS.

Other than the pay the most frustrating part and the tipping point to me is that I am never allowed to grow as an employee here. I have asked for access to several of our systems (SCCM was the last example) in order to learn new skills I can't replicate at home in my lab easily but always told no. I am asked to support 2 certain systems that I don't even have access to which i find insulting. Users are users, you all know them, they are mostly idiots who are very lazy except for a few.

So to sum it up, I don't feel appreciated. I have given my all here and always ask for extra responsibility and access to things in order to learn and grow. I am asked to train the new person and subsequent new hires because I know our environment so well.

I have a few skills. I feel like I am a good problem solver. I havent had a problem in my 5 years here that I could not figure out given a few days. I do as much with Powershell as I can. I could do a lot more if I had more access and higher credentials in our AD environment. When I first started here I was told to go to each pc and work on the problem and update them from that physical location. I quickly grew tired of that and learned how to use Powershell for remoting, update scripts that I automate now, and printer management. So I have become much more efficient. I have the A+, CTS, and Network + certs. I am about to take the SNCP storage exam and then start on Microsoft certifications. I want to do Linux exams but doing Microsoft first because that is our environment. I have basic to intermediate level Linux skills. I first started using Red Hat around the years 1999,2000. I'm a little fuzzy that far back now. However i think i still have my Red Hat cd roms somewhere in storage. I currently use Fedora and Suse, mostly Fedora though. My work desktop is a raid 0 machine with mdraid and kvm enabled where i run Fedora and a couple different Windows vm's. My laptop is just kvm with 1 Windows vm for when I am on a different campus. I operate 2 webservers personally and other things that I access from home usually. I can do basic hardening and don't have any issues working on the command line to do whatever I need to do on them. I run a few other things as well on the same cloud hardware to learn in the past such as Rocketchat, Mediawiki, and OSTicket. I can do basic level c++ and python stuff.

So with that little bit of context, when does the average IT person move on ?
Am I overthinking things?
Should I just be happy to have a job?
What do you all do when you want to learn new things to be more valuable that you can't do at home?

Q: So with that little bit of context, when does the average IT person move on?
A: When I know everything the job has to teach me.

Q: Am I overthinking things?
A: No. You should always be assessing your employment.

Q: Should I just be happy to have a job?
A: You have worth as an employee regardless of if they realize it or not. It's way harder to get a raise than it is to negotiate a new salary.

Q: What do you all do when you want to learn new things to be more valuable that you can't do at home?
A: I take online courses and read books. I may not be able to play with it, but I can at least learn the concepts. There is a lot you can learn at home. Never underestimate how important a home lab is. I include it on my resume.

Good morning everyone. I'm updating my planning for upgrades to our hosts. I also have a database refresh planned.

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender I saw return of the jedi in theater with my dad. Think I was like 9.

I saw it with both of my parents, when I was 6, on release day at the Cineplex Odion in Toronto. I still remember the audience cheering every time a main character came on. It was very influential in my hatred of movie theaters and how much their ruin the serious movie experience.

It does take you out of the immersion

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

In a conversation with co workers about star wars and my Micro Manager said "I don't think you were watching many movies when star wars came out.. so we can't really have this conversation about generation gaps.. "
I think that's about as close to an intelligent answer I've gotten from him..

That's not a conversation he's just dismissing you

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@srsmith said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@srsmith said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Got discharged from the hospital a couple hours ago. Doctor said pain would unfortunately be around for a few weeks, and put me on a blood thinner for at least 6 months.

They still don't know what caused the clot, since I have no risk factors for it, no family history, no injuries and no recent foreign travel. I have a feeling many doctor appoints will be in my short term future...

My brother got a blood clot just due to not exercising and sitting too much

I know I don't exercise as much as I should, so I suspect the doctor is going to rip into me about that at my check-up tomorrow.

Especially since there is no family history - I obviously need to make some changes.

Me too man. You'll get no judgment from me that's for sure

We'll just let JB judge you all

I heard he's going by jaybles now

@srsmith said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@srsmith said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Got discharged from the hospital a couple hours ago. Doctor said pain would unfortunately be around for a few weeks, and put me on a blood thinner for at least 6 months.

They still don't know what caused the clot, since I have no risk factors for it, no family history, no injuries and no recent foreign travel. I have a feeling many doctor appoints will be in my short term future...

My brother got a blood clot just due to not exercising and sitting too much

I know I don't exercise as much as I should, so I suspect the doctor is going to rip into me about that at my check-up tomorrow.

Especially since there is no family history - I obviously need to make some changes.

Me too man. You'll get no judgment from me that's for sure