Why no backups?

@JaredBusch said in Tailscale:

@jmoore Using wireguard instead of having to create their own software to do the encryption. But otherwise it is, basically, the same thing.

^ This.

Found this a couple of weeks ago, and people are saying that it's very fast/stable. Build on WireGuard and has a free plan that allows 1 user and 100 devices.

https://tailscale.com/

When money was tight, he'd get his lunch money from the local wishing well.

@scottalanmiller what's your time worth?

@travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

Wasabi has a $5 minimal monthly fee.

Also how do you plan to handle cooling?

This doesn't seem wife approved

Enjoy your $500+ power bill

@scottalanmiller said in Automated NextCloud Backup to Wasabi or Amazon S3:

It is indeed. It's running now.

How much data? How long is it taking?

Note: Use the -P/--progress flag to view real-time transfer statistics

https://rclone.org/s3/#wasabi

rclone is much easier

@stacksofplates said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

If I snapshot a VM and copy the snapshot off somewhere else it's a backup.

Sure, agreed. But that's not what @scottalanmiller said.

@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

We do, shouldn't, but we do because customers don't want to pay for better backups.

I was referring to this ^ Snapshots are not a backup, just like RAID is not a backup.

@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

Yeah, just for some reason in that table it shows that you can't. My guess is that it is a typo, but I've not tested it so I can't confirm.

It's defiantly not a typo. I am the member of a proxmox user group, and someone just did a install with LVM and everything related to snapshots was grayed out. Then we figured out it was LVM and not LVM-thin. So regardless if it's "all the same" it matters to proxmox.

@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

We do, shouldn't, but we do because customers don't want to pay for better backups.

I am surprised NTG would take on a client like this. We sure wouldn't. The risk is too great. We just tell the client to take there business elsewhere. Maybe we are sending clients to you guys! =P

@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

You definitely can. We use that as the backing to our main backup tools on LVM.

Then your using LVM-thin. Maybe that's just a subset of LVM?

@stacksofplates You can't take snapshots on LVM. https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Storage

@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

LVM is what we use.

So you don't take snapshots?