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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Danp
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      @Danp said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

      Can the torrent be downloaded without additional tools? Remember, script is designed to run from within Dom0 of CH / XCP-ng, so it isn't recommended to install a bunch of extra stuff.

      You'd need transmission-cli, which is just like having an FTP client or similar. Pretty small.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Transmission-cli is not available on the hypervisor, so magnets or torrents in general are out. If no one is willing to offer up some space on an existing NC installation that's fine.

        We're able to make this work using other solutions, albeit just a bit more of a headache.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 are you not prioritzing the seed?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

            @DustinB3403 are you not prioritzing the seed?

            It's going and I don't have it limited. Can you hit retry on the file?eee

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              your seed does not seem to stay on consistently.
              1fe53b9d-c8fc-4b75-9a13-840c6aa432ba-image.png

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                your seed does not seem to stay on consistently.
                1fe53b9d-c8fc-4b75-9a13-840c6aa432ba-image.png

                Sorry about that, it could be that my host is a laptop, I'm trying to make a smaller source anyways if you're trying to offer NC space.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1
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                  Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                    Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

                    It would, but we were hoping that it wouldn't have to cost the file is currently 1.7Gb, I'm troubleshooting a curl timeout issue, not sure if its with NC or my host or what. . .

                    The file currently lives here Direct download

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                        VoIP_n00b @travisdh1
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                        @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                        Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

                        Wasabi has a $5 minimal monthly fee.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @VoIP_n00b
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                          @VoIP_n00b said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                          @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                          Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

                          Wasabi has a $5 minimal monthly fee.

                          Yeah I know, which this is a project I'm working on to just be kind, which is why I was looking to do this at no cost (to anyone I care about, really).

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates
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                            For this small of a project you could just use onedrive or something. There aren't going to be many places to store up to an 8GB file for free and be able to download it whenever you want.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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                              @stacksofplates said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                              For this small of a project you could just use onedrive or something. There aren't going to be many places to store up to an 8GB file for free and be able to download it whenever you want.

                              Yeah we are looking at and testing different providers for free accounts, it's all a WIP. There may be issues in xcp-ng as well (looking at a few logs which might cause issues)

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @VoIP_n00b
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                                @VoIP_n00b said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

                                Wasabi has a $5 minimal monthly fee.

                                I'm already slightly above the minimum for them just from the backups that get pushed to Wasabi, so it really is just that 50 cents a month for me. At less than 2TB that @DustinB3403 posted a little father down, it'd be all of 12 cents.

                                Remember, they don't charge for downloads.

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                                  1337
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                                  First off, I'm a heavy xcp-ng user but don't use Xen Orchestra so I don't know how it is setup.

                                  But why not an iso file instead of an xva? It's much smaller and more flexible.

                                  Debian/ubuntu iso bundled with a preseed file will create a self installing system with just a 350MB file size.

                                  You can run a script on the hypervisor that creates the vm and pulls down the iso (if it's not there), and starts the VM which then installs the OS and XO.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                    @VoIP_n00b said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                    Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

                                    Wasabi has a $5 minimal monthly fee.

                                    I'm already slightly above the minimum for them just from the backups that get pushed to Wasabi, so it really is just that 50 cents a month for me. At less than 2TB that @DustinB3403 posted a little father down, it'd be all of 12 cents.

                                    Remember, they don't charge for downloads.

                                    Do you mean GB? You keep saying TB.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @1337
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                                      @Pete-S said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                      First off, I'm a heavy xcp-ng user but don't use Xen Orchestra so I don't know how it is setup.

                                      But why not an iso file instead of an xva? It's much smaller and more flexible.

                                      Debian/ubuntu iso bundled with a preseed file will create a self installing system with just a 350MB file size.

                                      You can run a script on the hypervisor that creates the vm and pulls down the iso (if it's not there), and starts the VM which then installs the OS and XO.

                                      Because needing an ISO would require people to either have XCP-NG Center installed or know how to build a VM via the command line.

                                      What this provides is a direct import of a working management interface from a root shell on the hypervisor.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @stacksofplates
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                                        @stacksofplates said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                        @VoIP_n00b said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                        Would Wasabi be an acceptable host for said file? That'd be 8TB x $0.06 = $0.48/month to host the file. I would just make another bucket to store just it in, and make the file publicly accessable.

                                        Wasabi has a $5 minimal monthly fee.

                                        I'm already slightly above the minimum for them just from the backups that get pushed to Wasabi, so it really is just that 50 cents a month for me. At less than 2TB that @DustinB3403 posted a little father down, it'd be all of 12 cents.

                                        Remember, they don't charge for downloads.

                                        Do you mean GB? You keep saying TB.

                                        Yep, doh!

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                                          1337 @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                          @Pete-S said in Looking for a NC host for an Open Source project:

                                          First off, I'm a heavy xcp-ng user but don't use Xen Orchestra so I don't know how it is setup.

                                          But why not an iso file instead of an xva? It's much smaller and more flexible.

                                          Debian/ubuntu iso bundled with a preseed file will create a self installing system with just a 350MB file size.

                                          You can run a script on the hypervisor that creates the vm and pulls down the iso (if it's not there), and starts the VM which then installs the OS and XO.

                                          Because needing an ISO would require people to either have XCP-NG Center installed or know how to build a VM via the command line.

                                          What this provides is a direct import of a working management interface from a root shell on the hypervisor.

                                          The user is downloading a script anyway to get started, bash -c "$(curl -s http://xoa.io/deploy)".

                                          So it doesn't matter to the user if the script needs to create a vm with xe vm-install or if it will do it with xe vm-import.

                                          I understand that you want to copy the method the Xen Orchestra guys have chosen. Personally I think it's suboptimal, even if their xoa.xva file is "only" roughly 800 MB in size.

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                                            1337
                                            last edited by 1337

                                            Regarding size, I did a regular debian 10 netinstall. And when running the xoce installation script after the installation, there was an additional 230 MB of packages and data downloaded.

                                            That means a total of 350+230 = 580 MB have to be downloaded to install the OS and build XO from scratch.

                                            Debian iso and packages downloads very quickly as they are sponsored by a CDN (Fastly) that delivers their files.

                                            Anyway starting from nothing, it took about 7 minutes to download everything needed, install debian unattended and build xo with the script and have everything up and running.

                                            Some of the steps I did manually like create the VM because we haven't fully automated everything yet. I only took actual running time for the server in account though.

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