@Dashrender said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

@gjacobse said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

When you talk about projects you've done... always mention the MSRP

More impressive to mention that you approved and setup three Ricoh 100,000PPM MFPC that cost $34,000 each than the $11,000 you paid for them.

Why does the cost of the equipment matter? If you're impressed simply because someone was able to spend a shit-load of cash, I think your priorities are misplaced.

This. I'd be much more impressed, personally, being able to say I saved a company $23,000, in addition to adding value X, Y and Z, than the dollar figure on the PO.

@MattSpeller said in Things Not to Tell Danielle:

@gjacobse quit and wrote a script that randomly changed words in all your posts to swear words

Anything regarding @scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in And The Matrix begins...:

@thanksajdotcom said in And The Matrix begins...:

where you're coming from. However, in my experience, Google can have the data. I've never had a leak of any kind personally

You missed the whole point. The OP is talking about comparing the current progression to the Matrix. The Matrix controlled everything - sure people thought they had free will, but ultimately they didn't - they were jacked into a computer that controlled everything.

As Google learns more and more about us, they learn better how to manipulate us, and they'll be able to do it so subtlety that we won't even know that it's happening. Advertisers do that to us all time time.

Yeah but it's fact that the majority of the world is stupid, and I agree with @scottalanmiller that people like being manipulated and programmed. I do not claim to be immune to tactics like this, but I'm also pretty good about using them myself, and I've already had to go through a complete de-programming of my very being of everything I've learned since birth, so I've also got some resistance. However, I get what the OP is saying. That being said, we are a far cry from the world of the Matrix. And I've considered how once we have AI and robotics, how that will affect everything from civils rights to legislation in every aspect. It's going to be messy. Thankfully, we're not there yet. We've got enough to deal with right now.

This is a list of things not to tell @Minion-Queen . First and foremost: http://moviepilot.com/p/despicable-me-3-first-trailer/4169090
Youtube Video

As someone who uses Android phones, has a Google Home, and is all about the whole smart-home and hands-free life, I get where you're coming from. However, in my experience, Google can have the data. I've never had a leak of any kind personally about me, and everything they've done has made things easier and better for me. Maybe I should be more paranoid, but I'm not worried about it.

@Dashrender said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

@DustinB3403 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

Ha this made me laugh a bit....

As if it's crack or weed.

Just say MSRP.

Often MSRP doesn't match the expected shelf price. So I'm not sure what's weird about this?

I actually applaud Brother for doing this. Because, as Dash said, MSRP usually doesn't equal the actual price it is on sale.

@DustinB3403 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

With something that does duplexing, the ability to flip every other page so reading the page in a 3-ring binder would be a great feature.

Our existing printer can't do this.

Edit: It can duplex, but it doesn't flip the page for easy reading in a binder.

All that is as a feature is changing the nature of the duplex, and which way it flips the page. Brothers have had that feature standard (for choosing) for over a decade. No issues here.

I know they are generally refurbished cartridges because companies like the retailer I worked at takes old cartridges and sends them back. It's one of the things they do. So yeah, just don't go down that path.

@wirestyle22 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

@DustinB3403 thats good because the manufacturers put chips in them and 1 out of every 7 at my old job (third party toners) straight up didn't recognize the toner and would not work. I would have to return them every couple of weeks by shipment. Complete waste of time and money.

This. Also, non-OEM are generally refurbished OEM cartridges, so you're taking fresh, non-OEM toner and putting it in a cartridge that has run its life course and trying to make it work? Bad idea...

@DustinB3403 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

This is a habit they I haven't had to deal with here. They only purchase genuine toner.

Lucky you. I have seen it done both ways, and non-OEM almost never works out well. Usually results in lots of printer replacements.

@wirestyle22 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

@DustinB3403 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

@wirestyle22 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

@DustinB3403 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

Our existing HP has 460,536 prints to date!

I had an HP 4250 that had 2.5 million prints. If you maintain them correctly, they last for a ridiculously long amount of time.

Yeah, IF being the key word.

No one has ever put a feed roller or anything into this printer as far as I know. And our printer guy has refused to touch the printer.

Also they don't make the maintenance kit for this printer any more (from a brief search)

One thing I can say is don't ever try to purchase third party maintenance kits. I bought some rollers from china just to see and never again.

This. NEVER buy knock-off toners. In my experience, they often leak, break the machine, or, at best, give you far less pages than an OEM.

@DustinB3403 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

Our existing HP has 460,536 prints to date!

Ok, so for a comparable HP, you'll spend 2-3x what the Brother is upfront for the unit, plus the toners are less efficient (as a rule), so you will spend more on toners for less pages. Every cost analysis I do, as a rule, keeps Brother in the lead for efficiency.

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Site is running super hot today. What's going on today?

cat pics

You're welcome

@DustinB3403 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

Looking for it now, what is the expected lifetime duty count on the HLL?

Brother usually has the first thing to go, that isn't really replaceable, be the feed rollers. Once that happens, you just upgrade to the new model. They keep using the same toners for many models and several years usually before they change. They're good about that. Unlike other manufacturers, Brother doesn't create new toners every time they release a new line of printers. Lifetime duty cycle? You could get 60,000 pages. You could get 120,000. You could get more. It varies. But they're very durable and, they are cheap enough that if they do bite the dust after 50,000 pages, you can easily and cheaply replace them. So you're still saving money.

@DustinB3403 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

The HLL6200DWT, do they make that without the wireless?

Not that wireless is a bad thing, but there are enough random devices broadcasting in the building that I don't want to add another.

Presumably an HLL6200D?

They usually make a non-wireless version, but then you have to buy the tray separate. My recommendation is just to go to the web interface and disable wireless and broadcasting, and you'll acheive the same effect.

@Minion-Queen switched NTG to Brother about four years ago at my recommendation and she's been very happy with Brother ever since. @scottalanmiller and @Dominica also got a Brother color laser printer, and they've been very happy with it as well.

@DustinB3403 said in Work horse - Monochrome dual tray maximum Printer - Network compatible:

Budget IMO is likely in the 500-1000$ range.

Honestly, if that's the case, stick to Brother. That printer will give you 1,500 pages from the starter cartridge, and you could buy both the printer and two extra cartridges and still barely break $500. Now, Brother keeps their costs down by separating the drum from the toner, which even though the drum is like $150, because of how low the cost/page is, it's still cheaper than HP, Xerox, Lexmark, Canon, etc in the long run. The drum is good for 30K pages. So you won't be replacing that very often.