Posts made by R3dPand4

@scottalanmiller That's the feedback we had been getting from a lot of others who've worked with it as well, so I definitely think we know the route to take.

@anthonyh When you say their username matches a certain pattern what do you mean? Whatever the qualifier is it'd have to be perfectly consistent so you can build a RegEx around it for filtering, but it's definitely doable.

@scottalanmiller Working on a project and we're currently drafting up the details. One of the biggest decisions was whether to go MySQL or PostgreSQL, but I just talked to my partner and the improved query parallelism and Quorum commits may have just swung this super hard.

https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/1786/

@penguinwrangler One of us, one of us, one of us

@scottalanmiller the only two I had looked at thus far what a coincidence haha

I was looking at grabbing a Synology DS216j, anyone have any experience with them or have a different NAS you'd recommend? Primary use will just be for home device and lab backups.

Ubiquiti and an honorable mention for Mikrotik. If not just for the fact that they have a 10GBe Switch for $400.

@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

@r3dpand4 said in Managing Hyper-V:

@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

@coliver said in Managing Hyper-V:

I'm not a fan of those processors. They just don't work very well under even the most basic work loads.

It's only managing Hyper-V, though. I bet you'd never notice.

No, he said he does all of his management from this machine.

@r3dpand4 said in Managing Hyper-V:

Also I do everything from my management PC that I need to do, again this is personal preference.

Yeah I'm not sure how much hands on management you're needing to do on a day to day basis, but for myself it's incredibly minimal.

I can do everything I need from a Chromebook!

Precisely. I'm not sure why people are kicking up such a fuss about this...

@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

@coliver said in Managing Hyper-V:

I'm not a fan of those processors. They just don't work very well under even the most basic work loads.

It's only managing Hyper-V, though. I bet you'd never notice.

No, he said he does all of his management from this machine.

@r3dpand4 said in Managing Hyper-V:

Also I do everything from my management PC that I need to do, again this is personal preference.

Yeah I'm not sure how much hands on management you're needing to do on a day to day basis, but for myself it's incredibly minimal.

@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

@r3dpand4 said in Managing Hyper-V:

@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

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@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

Can you install and run RSAT on Windows home?

I'm not sure, I don't use Home edition at work or home. Who is using Windows Home?

You found a laptop with Windows 10 Pro on it for $200-300? Nice find then. If you didn't, then you'll need to toss $50-100 on top of that price to upgrade to Pro. that's where I was driving too.

But it's still weird to me to have this single computer sitting in the corner of my desk to manage a Hyper-V host when I have a decent (I assume) desktop/laptop on my desk for all of the other management I do.

I mean it takes all of 15 minutes on Newegg or Amazon. All that being said even if we're going by your numbers still you're looking at $300-400, I don't know where that $800 came from. Also I do everything from my management PC that I need to do, again this is personal preference.

That's a long time. Fifteen minutes of my time definitely would make a better laptop make more sense

Your time is worth a lot more than mine Scott

@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

@r3dpand4 said in Managing Hyper-V:

@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

Can you install and run RSAT on Windows home?

I'm not sure, I don't use Home edition at work or home. Who is using Windows Home?

You found a laptop with Windows 10 Pro on it for $200-300? Nice find then. If you didn't, then you'll need to toss $50-100 on top of that price to upgrade to Pro. that's where I was driving too.

But it's still weird to me to have this single computer sitting in the corner of my desk to manage a Hyper-V host when I have a decent (I assume) desktop/laptop on my desk for all of the other management I do.

I mean it takes all of 15 minutes on Newegg or Amazon. All that being said even if we're going by your numbers still you're looking at $300-400, I don't know where that $800 came from. Also I do everything from my management PC that I need to do, again this is personal preference.

@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

@r3dpand4 said in Managing Hyper-V:

@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

Can you install and run RSAT on Windows home?

I'm not sure, I don't use Home edition at work or home. Who is using Windows Home?

Anyone with $150 laptops

Hey hey hey now don't judge Newegg

@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

Can you install and run RSAT on Windows home?

I'm not sure, I don't use Home edition at work or home. Who is using Windows Home?

@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

@r3dpand4 said in Managing Hyper-V:

I mean I suppose the first bits a matter of opinion, it's baked into our solution so there is no added cost per say.

Baked in? So let's assume you have a full second PC that's solely used for managing this Hyper-V host. That's probably $800 (or more). One thing ML really tries to get across to sysadmins/generalist IT personal is that we are part of the business process, and a major goal of the business process is to do things cost effectively. As such, I'm not sure this is considered cost effective.

@dashrender I'm not sure where you're grabbing these prices from, so this whole statement is a bit of a straw man. I can grab a laptop for $150-200, you're overthinking this.

@dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:

@r3dpand4 said in Managing Hyper-V:

I only ever log into my management PC with this user. There's no logging in or out of anything...

What is a management PC? You actually have a whole other computer (or local VM) that's entire purpose is only servicing the Hyper-V host? seems like $300+ for a Windows license, pretty expensive.

It was mentioned earlier in the thread how you would manage Hosts that were domain connected if you had multiple domains in your environment. Some had mentioned even if Trusts were in place that Hyper-V Manager would ignore this, unless i misunderstood. I was simply offering this as an alternative since you're managing with local admin creds on the Hosts you don't have this issue.

That's true, I had forgotten about that bit, but your solution is instead of having separation, you'd have all Hyper-V hosts have the same single account, managed by your one PC that has that - that's not an enterprise solution. And I'll agree that MS hasn't given us one either.

I mean I suppose the first bits a matter of opinion, it's baked into our solution so there is no added cost per say.

Regarding whether this is an Enterprise Solution or not, to be fair I never claimed it to be. I also don't work in the Enterprise market and in that space I'm not sure how much Hyper-V you're really coming across. Others would probably have better insight on that in all honesty, I'd only be speculating.

@jaredbusch

@jaredbusch said in Managing Hyper-V:

@r3dpand4 said in Managing Hyper-V:

@jaredbusch Because I have never needed the very thing supporting my infrastructure to be dependent on one of the vms inside of it.

Joining it to the domain does not mean that a local login no longer exists. Why would you think that it requires the guest VM with AD to be running? First your credentials are cached, so you will likely be able to log in anyway. Second, if they are not, you only have to log in with the local account and do whatever you need to reboot the AD VM to regain AD auth.

I'm aware of local logins and AD. I'm not sure why you'd ever want to rely on cached credentials on your Hosts, but sure it'll work for a time.

" you only have to log in with the local account and do whatever you need to reboot the AD VM to regain AD auth."

This is literally my point....why add steps unnecessarily? This is literally my management preference from default so why am I wrong for removing a step? Again, if you're relying on cached creds to authenticate with a domain joined Host in order for you to manage your vms I don't see that as remotely ideal.

@dashrender No worries, maybe I'm not explaining myself very well.

• Sure, so this means logging out of the domain and logging into the PC as a local user with the same username/password as you have setup on the Hyper-V host - what a PITA.

I only ever log into my management PC with this user. There's no logging in or out of anything...

• Why do you have multiple domains, and how would you manage them all from a single PC if the domains aren't trusted, etc?

It was mentioned earlier in the thread how you would manage Hosts that were domain connected if you had multiple domains in your environment. Some had mentioned even if Trusts were in place that Hyper-V Manager would ignore this, unless i misunderstood. I was simply offering this as an alternative since you're managing with local admin creds on the Hosts you don't have this issue.

• I suppose I could build an account on the Hyper-V host that has the same creds as my user account on my PC, but damn, each time I change my password on my domain account (granted not frequent) I'd have to change it on the Hyper-V host.

This would be correct, however I don't regularly change passwords as it's not necessary or even inherently beneficial, and even if I do it takes less than 5 minutes for a complete update.

No offense taken, thanks for allowing me to clarify, hope this better explains my preferences.

@dashrender Again I am late to the party so I haven't read all 270+ posts, but just from my own experience it's nowhere near as difficult as people make it out to be. As long as you're launching Hyper-V manager on the management PC with a mirrored Administrator credential from the Host then you're good to go. I generally have one mirrored Administrator account for my hosts, if you have multiple domains across different Hosts then you're able to manage them still from one PC and one account. Maintaining a PC is neither expensive nor difficult, Win10 comes with almost all of the Management Tools you would ever need.

@jaredbusch Because I have never needed the very thing supporting my infrastructure to be dependent on one of the vms inside of it. Also I'm not sure why you're saying this like it's a lot of work, it's literally no more or less work than creating a user account for management in AD and joining members to a domain. I wasn't arguing that it would hurt anything, it's just personal preference in all honesty, wasn't trying to be confrontational I just like having my management separated from the rest of the environment. I can imagine the headache that would come from a Host dropping Trust.